From: ruthypops2001@yahoo.com
my name is ruth and i'm 21 years old i think that the monkees should be very proud of themselves they produced a tv show and music that decades later is still attracting and inspirring (soz about the spelling!) young people. i am going to see them in concert and i'm so excited the monkees should be very proud of themselves
From: "TO USED"
since some of us may have been in a position similar to yours...can you just share which monkee it was and what he did after the hook up that let you down so much? did he not give you a way to contact him and express interest in seeing you again?
From: ruthypops2001@yahoo.com
my name is ruth and i'm 21 years old i think that the monkees should be very proud of themselves they produced a tv show and music that decades later is still attracting and inspirring (soz about the spelling!) young people. i am going to see them in concert and i'm so excited the monkees should be very proud of themselves
From: Estrella
Not a joke necessarily. The episode seem to be devoted to marijuana from Frodis the pot plant to people staring at their tv sets.
From: Estrella
"Dedicated few"? Sorry, but to expect every fan to be obsessed about The Monkees, and expect them to talk periodically forever about The Monkees in a serious manner is a bit much. Even the guys themselves are fair-weather Monkees ...
From: Illinois
Ok, here is what the Monkees should do next year. First, set up a six month tour. Next, get Mike Nesmith to tour. Even if you have to pay him twice as much as the three Monkees combined, get Nesmith. Then, do a TV special with Nez writing and directing, but maybe a TV variety show with the Monkees, Natural, Boy Village, etc. performing. Then, finish the year with an album, a new CD written mostly by Nesmith with some help from the other guys. I think this would make 2002 the BIGGEST year of the Monkees career.
From: Estrella
I think it should be an album they feel good about doing. The producer should be one who is willing to try to find the guy's strengths and weaknesses vocally, and work with that; updating The Monkees sound isn't good enough. No "We wanna be like Uncle Kracker or Kid Rock or SmashMouth".
Since they're recording in September or October and expect the album to be out before Christmas, getting the best sound would involve session musicians. If they want to write some of the songs, those songs should be picked because it seems like a good song to put on the album not because they wish to have a let one song written by a Monkee on the album.
From: Dan
Hee hee...uh, yeah. If this DOES happen, well...don't get too comfortable, 'cause the alarm clock will go off and put and end to it real quickly.
From: Chris Coyle
Not sure about pictured Mike and Micky smoking,can't think of any off hand, but Peter and Davy sure did. In fact I think Davy has been pictured the most smoking (shocking huh?) don't forget all the dope they smoked... it was the 60's man!
As for The Beatles, they were cool, so smoking became all so much more the in thing amoung teenagers. The ironic thing about that is when Capitol re-released "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" again as a single in 1984 to celebrate The Beatles 20th Anniversary arrival in America, they airbrushed the cigarette out of Paul's hand on the record sleeve.
Chris
From: Jan
Ah well, it was a nice thought, anyway. I'm glad I DIDN't hear it myself! LOL!
Yes, it was Brian White at Sunny 106.5 that screwed me so badly. I sent him a scathing email, and before it's over with, I may end up calling the station manager and complaining. Someone who lies like that has no business working with the public. I told him I was GLAD he didn't get the interview because he didn't deserve to share company with someone as nice as David!
It worked out well anyway. We got to speak to him in the parking lot....I would have been awful disappointed if I'd been backstage and he didn't even come out!
Jan
From: Rita
When I first started posting, I wanted to be anonymous...so I used the first name that popped into my head, "FunkyMonkee," which I later dropped. But anyway, I remember discussing Nez's "hopeless junk" remark about the Monkees songs. Just saw some of Mike's 80s videos for the first time this weekend, and well....although I liked them....but, you know, I couldn't help wondering how he could possibly call the Monkees songs "hopeless junk"....what do you think?
From: Mandi
That WOULD make a great fantasy year, but let's face it, mike's done with the monkees. Unless by some miracle of god he chances his mind. we can only dream.
But, we'll keep the dream alive!
later
mandi
From: Rita
....without you, I'm like a gumball with no gum...?
From: Jan
To the one who said her website was going to be destroyed.... If you'll go join Tripod, they have a mechanism where you can move your entire site, directories and all over to them, and not lose a thing. It's free, too....and they give you 50mgs of room.
Jan
From: Rita
My 13-year-old son, who isn't really a Monkees fan, saw me watching the video of Mike at the Britt. He made me laugh the way he said that's why Mike wasn't asked to go on tour....whew!...we won't tell anyone, Mike, just stay home, okay? Sorry! Just had to share that!
From: Mark J.
I'm not taking sides on this issue... It's good to hear that you're all for peace and anti-hate. (I'm totally against war and hate...) I am wondering though, why "davyhitmefirst" as your screen name? (I know the Peter reference -- it just seems a bit odd.)
From: Chris Coyle
Andrea,
Sorry you feel offended, I'm sure from Mark's intentions and I know from my post that was not what was meant to happen.
No one is saying you can't have any fun here. That is not the point. The point we were stressing, besides the fair weathered fans that I brought up, is that The Monkees are never taken seriously because of the teenyboppers they seem to attract every tour. There is nothing wrong with being a teenybopper or a new fan. I just find it somewhat frightening that a 15 year old girl or even a 20 year old young women would be interested in 50+ year old men. It is one thing to be into the series as a show, or the music, but to be a fanatic fan of a young age talking “First, Micky, Davy and Peter come out wearing conductor uniforms and do Midnight Train while a cute chimp "drives" a little plastic train around the stage.” Is a little disturbing. Bubba Slim, how old do you think these guys are now?
If you want to see a Monkees board run a muck check out this site.
http://www.themonkees.com/disc1_frm.htm
We all wonder why The Monkees have yet to make it into the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame, or why radio didn’t play Justus, or maybe why The Monkees have to release a new live album at shows only. If we want The Monkees to start getting some serious respect I think we should take a look at what fandom means to each of us.
Love and Mercy
Chris
From: Still shaking my head...
My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: Original in Commercial
The commercial I saw had the original. I heard the remake Saturday on the radio...wouldn't have, but I didn't choose the station in the office that day!
From:
Looks like we're both having trouble reading. Sorry I misunderstood your penicillin comment. I'd like to point out your errs, if I may. I never named names and I never named *acts* or details. You are assuming what happened. Used can mean many things. The other assumption you made that may or may not be correct is that I wouldn't give a Senior Citizen at Walmart the time of day. Don't judge me. Why is the man I referred to so easily forgiven for what he did, but you have inferred I'm a slutty groupie who wouldn't give a regular man the time of day? Maybe I DID naively think it would be more. Isn't that better than having No guilt and not caring... which is where I'm sure he's at. **********My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: Chris Coyle
Glad you liked Mike's video work. Now you have to go check out the films he's been involved with "Repo Man" and "Tape Heads".
As for the hopeless junk line, I suspect the teenybopper image was getting at Mike and he needed a cool line to shoot off to the press. The same reason I think he spent all his Monkee money cause he deemed it "dirty money".
Chris
From: Julianna Michelle
My goodness I was going to say!!!!!! Thanks for clearing up that you're 19, not 10, because I was really creeped out...
Peace
From: Leigh Angela
I put my subject in the From line!!
From: Lacey
It would be awesome if Mike would hook back up with the other guys and have one more kick-ass tour but... I wouldn't hold my breath. Mike has worked too long and hard developing his own identity as Michael Nesmith to go back to "Monkee Mike". Well, just look at how he ditched the last U.S. tour after Europe. So much for wishful thinking.
ps...(confidential to Juliana Michelle)...i didn't want the drummer, I would have rather had Slim :) (dirty!!)
From: john
Looks like I had a busy weekend and missed some good debate! I read your post fist mark and then went back and read Bubba's. I thought for sure he was joking. Wow. Well, maybe we could just tell him we think that is a very silly and degrading idea, but refrain from suggesting that some folks should stay off the board. I agree with you that this board generally has good debate and excellent contributors. I have't read everything yet so if I missed a point I apologize.
From:
Looks like we're both having trouble reading. Sorry I misunderstood your penicillin comment. I'd like to point out your errs, if I may. I never named names and I never named *acts* or details. You are assuming what happened. Used can mean many things in many ways. The other assumption you made that may or may not be correct is that I wouldn't give a Senior Citizen at Walmart the time of day. Don't judge me. Why is the man I referred to so easily forgiven for what he did, but you have inferred I'm a slutty groupie throwing myself at Rock Stars who wouldn't give a regular man the time of day? Maybe I DID naively think it would be more. Isn't that better than having No guilt and not caring... which is where I'm sure he's at. A fair trade off??? Never. **********My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: John
Seriously, I consider that a compliment because those guys know way more about the Monkees than me. I am going to stay out of this debate but I agree that there is enough room for everybody here and plent of Monkeelove. (Hell, I don't even own a disc version of PCA&J!)
From: Tammy
I have heard rumors that one of the Monkees knows SL. Someone told me it was Mike and that he has a deaf daughter. Someone else said it was Peter. I was wondering because I have a deaf cousin who loves the Monkees. He started watching them while he was at my house and soon he started asking me to put them on before he even said hi to me. The past few weeks he has been borrowing some of my videos and watching them over and over again at his house. Right now he desperately wants to go to a concert with us! Gleeb, Tammy
From: Deb8998
Hi all, just checking some monkee stuff out and thought i would drop in here and say hello. what did everyone think of the early show performance today? Deb
From: Tammy
Is anyone going to the Westbury concerts next week? I can't wait. My "MonkeeBuddies" (my mom and our friend Bunny) took the dork stick thing to extremes! Right now there is a whole box of glow stuff in my living room, including handheld blacklights and hairgel that reacts to it!! 3 of everything of course. We want to be noticed if it kills us!! Gleeb, Tammy
From: **Ashley**
I loved it - especially Peter saying how he didn't wanna hear Micky's vulcan thing again. =) I just wish they woulda showed more of the concert... maybe Peter singing someting...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Stacey
Frodis was Micky's word for marijuana just like Gleeb was his word for love
but I still wanna know if there's anything to this Glick person!
From: **Ashley**
They recorded it for Shrek I think... so did Eddie Murphy.
Peace n Gleeb
From: head shaker
Well, if you DIDN'T mean Davy, then excuse the error. What I said still holds, though. And I'm not excusing them because they don't need excusing. They do what every other unattached male in the world does....hit on women and try to score. If you sleep with a man you hardly know (I'm trying to NOT get too bad with the language here) then the man usually drops you. It's the universal way of things. If you want a man to respect you, you keep your clothes on for a reasonable number of encounters.
They aren't much different than the average man in a bar looking to pickup somebody. The same rules apply. It's just with them, the women offer it first.
And if you are thirty years old (or twenty or whatever) and you routinely sleep with 55 year old men instead of ones your own age....well, that's your choice, but I'm willing to bet it's not the case. I don't consider 55 a senior citizen, myself, either....those were YOUR words.
Besides, these guys may be 50-something, but they look and act 40-something, and they have been idolized for years.
You should know better if you are truly 30 years old. Your judgement sounds more like that of a mis-guided teenager looking for love and attention.
This subject has had enough discussion, as far as I'm concerned.
From: Jennie
Here's another question for anyone who's seen the merchandise on the leg of the tour: What sizes are they selling the shirts in? Back in March, they were only selling Large and XLarge. Please tell me they've added Medium!!!
From: meranda
are they coming to sacramento? or anywhere close
From: sutton4943@aol.com
I'll be at Sterling Heights.
From: ruthy
I'm not a grouie and i don't spend my time dollowing famous blokes around cause there famous just to sleep with them but davy jones is davy jones i'm not saying its right for a bloke to sleep with u and dump u but thats what u should expect it dosn't take much to work out that thats what will happen if u sleep with one of them (keep in mind i'm not a groupie) it would be a complete dream 4 me to get that close to davy he is my idol and i adore him so i don't feel any pain 4 u infact i'm quite jelous and hope i can only be so lucky when i go to the monkees gig!
From: **Ashley**
Headquarters... most of my fave songs are on it! (You Just May Be The One, RSG, For Pete's Sake...) I love Justus too.
Peace n Gleeb
From: Loreli
yea, lol, someone got that for me and i went back to correct it, hehehe, when i get passionate typing, my language gets horrible, you see all the mistakes i made, hehehehe
From: **Ashley**
::waves:: Me! I'll be there! Row QQ baby! Hehe... the more letters the closer you are...
Peace n Gleeb and criped ppl don't take things so seriously!
From: Pam
This is to the girl that calls herself "another throwaway". If you are willing to go that extra mile the first time you meet ANY guy, don't you think he's gonna think you're a slut? Why would he call you then? He already got what he wanted and there are plenty more where that came from.
From: **Ashley**
::waves:: Me! I'll be there! Row QQ baby! Hehe... the more letters the closer you are...
Peace n Gleeb and cripes ppl don't take things so seriously!
From:
I hope to God that they decide to come back next year. I think they do need a new album and TV special. Even if Nez doesn't come, this would be a treat!
From: **Ashley**
You know I'm there! That's row... 17 I think.
Peace n Gleeb
From: mbperson
at the meet and greet there was a lady searching for "the guy that was supposed to do the interview".....thats so lame he didnt show!!
From: suzyque
I'll pray for your recovery.....good luck!
From: Rocker
How good were the Monkees at playing their instruments? I'd like to read a few of your responses before I opine.
From: ~Eva~
i got row QQ, btu thats just cuz im hype like that, aighty I will see ya'll in 11(including toda) days baybee!
From: Can I ask "used girl"?
To the girl who had this experience...
was it with davy or one of the other guys? tell me what happened with after your encounter? He left you w/o any way to contact him...or..?
From: ~Eva~
i got row QQ, but thats just cuz im hype like that, aighty I will see ya'll in 11(including today) days baybee!
From: Loreli
i only saw the monkees once so far and i think they are great! peter plats his banjo, guitar and the keyboards wonderfully....micky does drums and guitar and that drub that i cant think of the name od (tom tom?) and davy plays the tambouring (its true folks! thr guitar!)hehehe, and i think they are great! have you been to a concert yet? i just wanna say, dont make an opinion yet till you hear them live....but i will tell you ..they rock!
From: Teresa in Texas
Just a couple of suggestions:
You Told Me--Dwight Yoakum
Papa Gene's Blues--The Everly Brothers (they still perform sometimes, don't they?)
Goin'Down--either Barenaked Ladies or the Manhattan Transfer
And for a "real" fantasy--if Nat King Cole were still living, I'd LOVE to hear him do "Sometime in the Morning," a couple of octaves lower--wouldn't that be just beautiful? I've tried to think of something Sinatra could have done, but can't.
From: Anthony
Hey Hey all you Monkee fans!!!
I have some great news I got right from David Fishof in response to my email!!!
I asked him if the guys were going to record a new album and he said "yes they're doing a record."!!!!!
Also, I asked if the August tour is going to happen and he said "yes august is happening."!!!
Last, and most important...I asked if this was really their "Final Tour" he said "no it's not the final tour they decided to stay together."!!!
I can't believe all this!!! I almost had a heart attack when I recieved this!!!
(I'll try to get some more information soon! If you have a reasonable question email me (adf@themonkees.zzn.com)I'll ask him.)
Check out my site too: http://www.monkeesrule43.homestead.com/monkeesrule43.html
From: Jennie
Speaking of Mike on the tour, did anyone see the Early Show today? I thought they handled the "Where's Mike?" question very well. :)
From: Loreli
i agree pam, i know i sound like a blind fan, but hey, i AM a blind fan....i honestly don''t know how you think the girl thought she was "special" or ment something after onlu ONE experience! even i know that is not possible...i think if ya kept your clothes on you might have gotten more respect from him.
From: Teresa in Texas
"Classic Pop" is what the Monkees need--like their songlist that has survived over 30 years and still sounds fresh! Maybe they should contact the people who wrote songs for them in the past--Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Carole King (is Gerry Goffin still alive?), Ellie Greenwich, Jeff Barry, John Stewart, I think Paul Williams is no longer with us. Surely these people have some great unfinished songs lurking in their attics that they can dig up and redo and refresh and give to the Monkees to record.
From: Loreli
hi, i agree with you...the monkees are 'the Monkees' and the girls go wild and throught themselves at the guys..but if they were normal and un famous, we probably wouldn't give them the time of day....so i think it was a fair trade of...scoring a monkee and scoring a prety lady....and for the 'used' girl who said some where in here that they get off scott free and she gets called a slut...i am not saying it is ok, but posting these things against the monkees in this site, or any pro monkee board is bound to get you into trouble..though i understand that you are trying to protect people here. but unfortunatly for some(like me) it doesn't matter. no matter who it was or what happened you were used, but it goes both ways. no one was a 'victim' in this situation...but that is only my opinion..thank you for your time
From: Jennie
I know what you mean Stacey, about people singing the theme song when they find out you're a Monkees fan. That's so annoying...and everyone that does it thinks they're being so original. Then I say, "Yeah, I've only heard that about ten times today!" and they have the nerve to get offended because I don't praise them for their vast knowledge, which was clearly displayed by the fact that they know the theme song (HEAVY SARCASM!). And since you're young, I'm sure you also get the "Oh my god, aren't they like 50 years old!" reaction from people...that's another one that bugs me. Okay, I'm done venting my frustrations now! :)
From: John
I like this one.
I admire all of them for making HQ and giving it thier best shot. Remember that when they started, instruments were not supposed to be part of the deal. I think Mike's HQ and Pisces guitar work was as good as any done by John Lennon a few years earlier. I don't think he rivals Harrison at a comperable period ( when the Beatles were just starting.)
I think Tork's keyboards were as good as any average studio musician of the period, but not a master.I would say his playing was as good as John or Pauls piano work on the Beatles albums (The stuff that was not done by George martin and Billy preston.) His banjo was closer to excellence. His bass playing during the live shows was as good McCartney's during a comparable period. See Sunny girlfriend. Tork's lead guitar parts during this tour have been excellent.
I love Micky but he was a poor drummer during HQ. But he did very well if you consider that he was not a drummer and had to learn. His drumming has vastly improved, see JUSTUS.
Davy was just an OK precussionist. Listen to his Tamborine and Maraca parts in HQ, they are sloppy. That being said, I have tried to play both of those precussion instruments and IT IS HARD! Those who laugh at the tambourine have no idea how hard it is to play one in time for the length of an entire song. This may sound funny, but Davy's Tam & Maraca playing during this tour shows that he has become very good at these often ridiculed instruments.
So on the whole, if you compare the Early Beatles to the HQ Monkees, and make the Beatles a 10, the Monkees were IMHO a 6.
From: Rocker
Hello Ruthy! Those are good points you made. I often wonder how people would have reacted if the first two albums had listed the names of the session musicians instead of crediting the Monkees with the guitars and drums. A lot of fans felt mislead when Mike spilled the beans. (Was it Mike who told the press the truth?) What would have been wrong with letting Mike and Peter play guitars along with the session musicians? Then there wouldn't have been this huge revelation later on that has dogged the group ever since. I guess they did something right because a lot of great hits were made. What do you all think?
From: Julianna Michelle
DHMF, Alright, I understand if you must go. But if there is anyway I can talk you out of it, please let me know. :o) Just promise you won't go away forever and you come back every now and again to share your insight with me and those who appreciate it. Because we really do. Peace, take care, babe. Amanda
From: Jennie
For some reason I think I remember seeing a picture of Micky with a cigarett in his mouth...I'll have to think about where I might have spotted that...
From: someone out there that understands
I just have one question for you. Did this happen backstage or on the bus? In the old days the men used to have their roadies bring women into their dressing rooms. We know these men are not sweet angels they are lonely on the road. They like the attention they are getting from the women. I guess it makes them feel young until you really get up close and look them in the eye. My advice to anyone out there if you plan on trying to get it on with one of the men just use some protection. They all are with so many different women and you never know what you can catch. Just be careful. Ms.used if you went all the way with one of the guys and you felt bad afterward then it had to be such a bad experience for you. These men are heart collectors.
From: Tammy
And during one of the Las Vegas concerts Davy compared himself to them. Gleeb, Tammy
From:
Or you can mail Fishof and ask him yourself. He responds to almost everyone.
From: Jennie
It seems to me that the Monkees took the punishment for everyone that was using session musicians for their recording. It wasn't just them doing it, but they were the only ones getting any heat for it. Time didn't really allow for them to play the music on their recordings at that time, anyway. I still don't think that is particularly the reason why they are so under-appreciated. I think that is mostly due to the stigma of being pre-fabricated for the show. I think people tend to forget the fact that the Monkees were actors hired to play in a tv show. People tend to think that the Monkees were put together by studio execs at a cattle-call audition to make a teen-pop sensation BAND. That was the result, but not the intent.
From: Estrella
Well, the closest so far is the August 19th gig at Bakersfield, California. Then there's probably another gig further south, in LA, on August 24th.
From: Teresa in Texas
Welcome, Lhc, My favorite--Pisces. Always will be.
From: jamie
That is so neat. They are really staying together? Yayah. That just made my day.
From:
Age limit?! Speaking as one of the younger fans, I really resent that. Just what would you consider too young to be a Monkee fan?
From: jamie
oh, ok...That episode makes so much more sense now.
From: Jennie
I almost fell outta my chair when I heard Micky use the George Clooney/ER doc ananolgy in place of the Leonard Nimoy/vulcan analogy...sigh...it's the end of an era! :)
From: I have seen this happen before and I do care
Dearused I want you to know you are not the only one out there that has felt used. The reality is that these men are on tour and are alone they are no different then many men in their positions. I am glad they are not getting into any serious relationships right now. Two of them have broken up with their relationships and I am sure was hard on both sides but it never stopped either of these men for dating many different women. My warning to any of the fans out there that by their own choice want to be with these men even if it is for 30 seconds or more if you are going to do anything sexually please have safe sex. They have been with many women and in this day and age you never know what you might catch. Its no different with any other Joe either. I do have a question for you ms. used. Did this happen to you on a bus or backstage? I would never ask you which Monkee because to me that should not be made public. I already have an idea who he is. I hope you are doing much better. I do think you have done a service by announcing what has happened to you and I am sure you learned a good lesson. Please remember there are people on this board that care.
From: Teresa in Texas
Finally the Early Show came through!! I'm glad they got to sing 2 songs completely! The comments they made about Mike were appropriate and they looked good, although a repair guy at my house said, "Is that Micky Dolenz?" I said, "yeah," and he said, "boy, he's put on a lot of weight," which I kind of ignored, 'cause I still adore Micky. And hey, at least Kelly Ripa knew something about the Monkees. What's Jane Clayson's problem? (she thought the Monkees came before the Beatles).
From: Estrella
This is probably going to bring some Nez bashers out of the woodwork, but as interesting an idea it is to see him get paid a whole load of dineros to tour, I think he might be too busy planning the 2002 Council on Ideas to even blink at the idea to tour in 2002.
From: Jennie
Wow, now that you mention it, I just had a flashback of a Davy solo show that I went to...while he was singing (can't remember which song) he broke in and said, "hey, I'm starting to sound like the Bee Gees" just because of the way he was singing at the moment, very Barry-esque. Hmmm...
From: cory
"Frodis" is a Monkee code-word for pot. The Frodis is a big marijuana plant that makes villians just want to "lay down in the class & be cool", the stoner character is seen walking out of "The Frodis Room" accompanied by hippie-dippy music, & - in a separate episode - "Legalize Frodis" is written on a chalboard (along with "Save The Texas Prarie Chicken").
From: Tammy
lol thats funny! It sounds like something they would have done on their tv show. Gleeb, Tammy
From: cory
This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read, BUT getting back to the original question...
Cariat, your experiences ring true for me. Peter will bend over backwards for a fan; Micky is pleasant, but reserved; and, Davy, well, Davy signed my CD but never diverted his attention from the female fans that were in line before & after me. I don't think he was being lecherous or lascivious, he's just a teen idol & that's what he enjoys being: why spend time chatting music with a 30 year old guy when you could be making a teenage girl's heart throb.
From: John
Excellent pick Mark J. Thats my fav this week.
From: evyaggie
I will be going to the concert at Westbury on Mon 7/16 and I would love to meet mutual fans. I will probably be waiting in the back, by the bus, before the show starts in hopes that they'll appear. I went in March and although I didn't meet at that time, I LOVED the show!! I did get Davy & Micky's autographs when they did the taping for the CBS Early Morning Show-:) I am REALLY looking forward to ONE WEEK FROM TODAY!!!
From: Tammy
I was kind of glad he switched. That Vulcan thing was getting annoying. When he started talking i yelled at the tv "Don't say it!!". I thought the Early Show was never going to show the concert. Why did they wait so long? Gleeb, Tammy
From: Stacey
Funny you should mention the "legalize Frodis" and all that stuff on the chalk board-- I was noticing that just yesterday!
But my question still remains...any story at all behind Wizard Glick??
From: Mikell
This morming I was watching the "early show". (It was good ) But the best part was my 2 year old son and 3 year old niece singing to "Daydream Believer". It was so cute. Riley, my son, also likes "No Time" and "Gonna Buy Me a Dog". To hear a 2 year old sing with me in the car is just as great as the fact that my mom has loved them since the 60's, I've loved them since the 80's and now my son in the new millenium! Makes my day!! THANK YOU MONKEES!!!
From: Stacey
Yah, I'm prolly gonna have to agree with Dan on that one. And that would be neat if Michael decided to do something with them, but he is extrememly busy right now (as he always is)-at least to my knowledge... I mean, I've heard all kinds of things about novels and movies, and of course there's always Videoranch to take care of.
But even if Mike doesn't join up with the Monkees ever ever again, at least we can still enjoy him as an artist in himself and all alone...
*sigh*....beautiful Mike. :D
May the God of Peace bless you all!
From: Leigh Angela
Yes it's great you have all four autographs...I never get their autographs anymore because I just don't need any more, but I have yet to get Mike's.
Micky does love to flirt :-) Did a security guard give you guys the passes, or maybe a band member? Sometimes I feel bad when people get back stage just because of their looks, but many people get lucky and are given passes for many other reasons...I guess if it's meant to be it's meant to be.
From: Stacey
That's way cool that your cousin got all hooked on the Monkees! Right on :).
As for the SL thing, I've never heard that before so I'm of little use in that department.
Plus, I didn't think Mike even had a daughter- only boys...?
From: Leigh Angela
Stacey, you don't have to tell us WHO gave you the passes...wouldn't want to start anything. It's just interesting hearing the different ways people get them, like the one girl who was just jabbering away and was sitting next to the right person. I myself am offering a trade: anyone who can get me backstage at Crosby Stills and Nash, I will get a BS pass for the Monkees or Brian Wilson/Paul Simon, no joke. I know people who work for CSN, yet somehow my connections always seem to slip thru the cracks.
From: Mandi
I have to agree with you John on playing the tambourine in sync with the rest of the music.
When i was in seventh grade, i was the solo percussionist for my church's kids choir. This basically meant that i got to play the tambourine on the last processional song during mass.
And that was HARD! So, kudos go out to Davy for all his years of percussion work!
later
mandi
From: Leigh Angela
Stacey, you don't have to tell us WHO gave you the passes...wouldn't want to start anything. It's just interesting hearing the different ways people get them, like the one girl who was just jabbering away and was sitting next to the right person. I myself am offering a trade: anyone who can get me backstage at Crosby Stills and Nash, I will get a BS pass for the Monkees or Brian Wilson/Paul Simon, no joke. I know people who work for CSN, yet somehow my connections always seem to slip thru the cracks.
From: Stacey
I too have only seen one Monkees concert, but let me tell you, I think they're awsome!
Peter absolutely blows me away in anything he does. His guitar and bass skills are of course great. But then there is his banjo and keyboard skills...when he played his Back piece at the concert, I just stared...I didn't even breathe for fear that the sound of my own breath would taint the perfect sound i was hearing!! Maybe I'm melodramatic, but I seriously thought it was that good. And his banjo- of course -is just undescribably awsome.
Micky is grand as well. His drumming skills are very fine, and he's really good at the guitar as well. While his instrument playing doesn't exactly take my breath away in the same way Peter's does, his voice makes my heart skip MANY beats :o). (Like you wouldnt' believe!!!)
As for Davy, I think he does a good job too. I mean, his tambourine and maracas are just classic, and his guitar playing isn't too shabby either! Trust me, I was watching their hands on their guitars the ENTIRE time they were playing "Circle Sky" and they were jammin!!! Davy actually broke a string getting down on that song! It was cool :):).
Anyways, wow I didn't think I'd get into that so much, but I guess I did, eh?! My point is that I think they are all excellent musicicians :)
Peace
From:
Hi, check out this site if you were curious about the Monkees smoking habits: http://monkeelovebadboypics.homestead.com/one.html
From: Kestra
Greetings,
According to the info that i have collected, Mike has 3 boys<1965,1968,1969> and 1 girl<1970>
From: Rocker
Very true. I'm sure a lot of bands used session musicians then and still do to this day. The Monkees proved themselves very early on with "The Girl I Knew Somewhere", written and performed by the Monkees! Peter and Mike were very good musicians, Davy and Micky were great singers. A lot of people don't realize that.
From: Julianna Michelle
Stacey, you knew Mike had a daughter; Jessica. Because remember, they named her middle name...Buffler... I hope that's like, Phyllis's great grandmother's maiden name or something, because if it's not...poor girl! I've never heard that one of them knew sign language, but if they do, they are even more my hero! I dabbled in SL a bit, but the class got cancelled, so I never got very far.
Peace
From: mom
Thanks sweetie. They are great, huh? Nice way to start the morning. So happy we have the Monkee music and concert to share. Now we can add the kids!
From: Julianna Michelle
It is quite striking how similar they are! Rememeber that line from "Animal Crackers", "Hooray for Captain Spaulding!"? A bit like, "Hooray for Davy!" wouldn't you say? And all those little things the Monkees say that don't really contribute to the plot, those are so Marx-ish. Especially in "Monkees on the Wheel", like when Davy says that girl has a line and asks her, but she doesn't. Or in "Hitting the High Seas" when they keep correcting "crackers" to "crazy". I have a new found respect for all those seemingly nonsense lines... and Mike makes a killer Groucho!
Peace.
From: **Ashley**
Dude Weird Al singing YAG would be soooooooooooooooo hilarious!
From: Julianna Michelle
It is quite striking how similar they are! Rememeber that line from "Animal Crackers", "Hooray for Captain Spaulding!"? A bit like, "Hooray for Davy!" wouldn't you say? And all those little things the Monkees say that don't really contribute to the plot, those are so Marx-ish. Especially in "Monkees on the Wheel", like when Davy says that girl has a line and asks her, but she doesn't. Or in "Hitting the High Seas" when they keep correcting "crackers" to "crazy". I have a new found respect for all those seemingly nonsense lines... and Mike makes a killer Groucho!
Peace.
From: ~Sara*
Um yea I am in row QQ. GET OFF ME! yo if you take binoculars and then take pictures throught them, and it does work, the pictures actually come out quite nice, don't they eva? yes they do. anyway we movin up so get off of um me and ashley and eva and ashley. k see ya
From: Estrella
Mike has one daughter, Jessica, the youngest of all four. She sang back-up for her dad with Christian and Jason on the last song of Nez's album The Garden, so I don't think she's deaf.
From: john
I just found that funny. MAybe someone has already made this joke.
From: Andrea - BTW, get your free stuff at my site : )
Ok, I know I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks, but what happened? Did the board suddenly get taken over by the evil Wizard Glick and his cohorts? I can't believe all the non-Monkeeluv happening on this board : ( And where have the "oldbies" gone? Several of them left notes that they would be leaving and not returning. And others just vanished without a trace. I notice they are now posting on my site and on one of the other discussion boards, but hey! I don't get it. Dan, John, Estrella, DHMF, Ashley, Miss Blue Dork Stick, Tyme - are YOU guys are still around? Are we still Monkeebuddies? Anybody? Anybody?
I'm starting to feel like Micky in the eppy "Monstrous Monkee Mash" >>Where are you guys? Davy? Peter? Mick-uh-Mike? "Hey, hey I'm a Monkee..."<<
Disturbed in Bayonne, NJ... Andrea Check it out! The first contest has begun @ www.fanstuffonline.com
From: Tyme
I agree with that. I drives me insane when people act like the only songs they recorded were last train ect...
I always, always tell people that there are better songs than those. In fact, at my best friends graduation party I had the DJ play "Can You Dig it?" and "I'm a believer", no one danced to Can you dig it? except me and a guy friend, who got mad at me when I told him it was a Monkee song ("I can't believe I'm dancing to the Monkees"), but everyone was up and singing to I'm a Believer.....
Drives me insane...
From: Andrea - Monkeestock 7/14/01 or BUST!!! (long)
Hey Metalmaden. Sorry it took me a while to get back to ya. I've been locked up in the hospital for a couple of weeks, and it's taken me some time to get through all these posts!
I'd have to say my fave eppy is usually whatever happens to be playing at the moment. I really get a kick out of the show, and it would be easier for me to say my least faves, which would be Monkees at the Circus and Captain Crocodile. I could do without those two. The other 56 eppies are my favorites. Is that a cop-out?
Lucky you, you're out of Bayonne, the armpit of armpits. I thought Jersey stunk in general, but I grew up in Central Jersey. Moved up here when I went to college and now I'm married to a Jersey City boy, so I guess I'm stuck here in this toxic waste dump located conveniently at exit 14A on the NJ Turnpike. Any tips on how to get the heck outta here? Maybe not as far as Texas, but New Brunswick would be nice.
Back to the original topic, I agree BIG TIME about She Hangs Out. Davy rocks that song, and he shows how much he loves it with the energy he puts forth during performances. Always a top "Davy dancin'" tune!
Peace, Gleeb, and Monkeestock forever! ~Andrea www.fanstuffonline.com
From: cory
Jennie, I missed it! How did they respond?
From: Sock it to me
They left for greener pastures.. last post I read they were accused of being closet gays and the posts were about crap like who would make the best couples within the group.
Hey Andrea..didn't you say so not so nice things the last time you posted?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I am soo glad that Micky used an analogy that fits well today. You never know, maybe there are actually people out there that have no idea who Leonard Nemoy is or what a vucan is. But it is sad to see such a much over used joke go.
Good concert though!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Leigh Angela
I work at a large professional dinner theatre, and one of the principal actors in our last show was deaf. She sang and danced, even had a solo, don't know how but she did it!
From: cory
1. PAC&J
2. HEAD
3. HEADQUARTERS
From: Andrea - Monkeestock 7/14/01 or BUST!!!
Yes, it's true. The last post I put up before I went into the hospital was not as lighthearted as I usually am, but that was a retort to some really hurtful comments aimed at me and the other silly members of the board. I can accept that. I just can't believe someone like Monkeescott was driven out of here. The poor man had people praying for his Grandson, and next think you know he's decided not to return to our board.
Like I've said before, I enjoy being a part of this community. I wish I could've done something to prevent all these people from leaving, but what's done is done. All I'm saying is, why did it have to come to this? Shouldn't there be room for conflicting ideas on this board? If we all agreed on exactly how to be a fan and which songs to like and whether or not a 59 year old man can be considered sexy to a teenager, the world would be a boring place. But let's not beat each other up about it. As Davy has said, "This is not brain surgery folks, it's The Monkees."
Brad, I'd love for you to comment eventually on what's happening with your board. Perhaps a moderator or two would be helpful. I know a few people who would be willing to take that job! I would hate to have this board censored, but if common sense is not the rule of thumb, somebody should lay down a few ground rules. Too many people's feelings are getting hurt! It's just so easy to attack someone when they are just a name, and they're somewhere out in cyberspace.
And just an aside to Sock It To Me, I'm surprised (and just a little bit humbled) that you remember my last post at all. Is that the name you usually go by? If so, welcome to this crazy board - because I don't remember seeing you around before. Forgive me if I'm wrong...
Still love this place, Andrea www.fanstuffonline.com
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
Thats row 17. The funny thing is that is goes from roww AA-UU. Then it starts the regular alphabet. I may be a hoosier and not from Michigan but here in Indiana, the alphabet goes to Z. Am I correct?? LOL
See ya at the show! Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Jennie
No kidding!!! I just got back from vacation and this place is completely different. I'm having a terrible time trying to figure out what happened while I was gone, because the board is so whacked out.
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I am totally agreeing with you. I have been a Monkees fan since I was 6. I met my best friend in 3rd grade and I think we hit it off because we were both BIG Monkees fans. I don't think the popularity is there only because they are touring. I will admit that that may be the case with some, but since my parents always listened to the oldies, and liked the guys, that in turn made me the fan that I am today. I say be proud and support the Monkees and just laugh at all those silly little comments people make about them.
Christi
From: Teresa in Texas
Hi, guys, Just got back from New Mexico. Didn't see Nez or MMM. Oh well, had a great time where it's cool. I wanted to let you know about an article I saw in the Dallas Morning News today. A sports writer starts out trying to debunk several myths (like George Washington and the cherry tree), but then he goes on to say that "several members of the Monkees had no musical aptitude whatsoever." WELL, that got me mad enough to e-mail this guy and set him straight on each member's musical abilities. If any of you would like to see this article, it's at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports_day/highschools/sherrington/414729_10sherrington.html and you can e-mail him at ksherrington@dallasnews.com. Hopefully I did my part to set him straight. I'll try to finish reading all this board and join in when I can. Teresa!
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I was going through some of my Monkees shows that have been taped throughout the years and was watching The Rosie O Donnell show last night. I believe the guys were on in 96. ON that show, Rosie asked where Mike was and they said he was in LA getting Justus ready. She made the remark that she heard it was because his mom invented Liquid Paper. The way they responded was by changing the subject and making sure people knew he was working on the album. Alomost as if they didn't want to evenjoke about it. I found it odd today on the Early show when asked about Mike, Micky said it was because his mom invented Liquid Paper and then they started joking about it. I know they were joking on both shows but find it kinda strange how the responses can change in attitude over 5 years. Anyone have any idea why that may be? (If that rambling made any sense)
Also, it was funny to hear Micky still using the white out messes up computer screens joke. He used it on Rosie. LOL
I'm sure they are sick of getting asked the question but they do handle it well every time.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Jazz
I am interested in finding out the line up for the summer shows. I am going on Thursday, July 12th to the PNC Bank Art Center in NJ. Is there an opening band? How long is the concert? Is it the same as the 2001 Spring Shows? Please let me know. Thanks. Jazz
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
They are still only selling L and XL.
From: cory
What a shame. This board is a mess in style (all thes old postings mixed in with new ones) & substance (arguements about homophobia & sordid groupie venting). Are the old post-ers still around or did they give up the fight? I'm not saying more aguing, but let's lead by example... or has the board just run it's course & become what Bill Mahrer calls "grafitti on a bathroom wall"?
From: cory
Mark,
Other than the Mark McGrath reference, I second all your thoughts! As far as outside songwriters go, maybe now would be a good time to work that Lou Perlman connection - he has a stable of pop songwriters not dissimilar to Kirschner's 30 years ago!
From: cory
What a shame. This board is a mess in style (all thes old postings mixed in with new ones) & substance (arguements about homophobia & sordid groupie venting). Are the old post-ers still around or did they give up the fight? I'm not saying more aguing, but let's lead by example... or has the board just run it's course & become what Bill Mahrer calls "grafitti on a bathroom wall"?
From: Rocker
The debut album. I guess because it's the first one I heard and it is loaded with great tunes.
From: Estrella
I'm still here, lurking in the shadows mostly. A lot of other people quit posting after the same-sex "Monkee couples" thread.
But activity in the discussion board in general was going to eventually die out anyways (the day in the life of a Monkee discussion board) with some posters giving out e-mail addresses, just happened a lot sooner.
Don't let the silence stop you from posting-- who knows interesting discussions might occur. :)
From: john
I am sorry, of course, you are right. I forgot about those. Sometimes I think only in terms of tunes during the TV show years.
From: Teresa in Texas
Yeah, I'm still waiting patiently for shows in Texas. However, I don't blame them if they don't want to come here in August--it's hotter than you know what. I'm hoping for September, or November when they get back from England.
From: john
I just love it when you Monkeebabes give me sympathy. I am going to Vegas this week. Maybe I will get drunk and try to call Mike again and ask him why he's not on tour this year. See if he'll give me permission to take his place.
"...girl...you look mighty good to me..." How's that?
From: Important question
this is to the girl that got used. It would be great if you could tell us who your experience happened to be with....so others are aware. Or atleast tell us what happened afterwards and why you felt used. Did he give you no way to contact him?
From: Chris Cruz
If you notice, they're not playing their own music. I think in Nez's mind, it would a farce to be up there as the Monkees and not playing the music. He's always been adamant on that point. I don't agree with him, but that's my theory about why he's not on this tour. He probably was approached, but when learned that the band wouldn't actually play, he said, "Forget it!"
From: Teresa in Texas
Cool thread! Of course, Bobby Sherman should be there--he was in one of their episodes. Also, my fave, Michael Martin Murphey, who wrote or co-wrote 3 of their songs.
From: Chris Cruz
They probably are tired the constant "Mike questions" that come up with every reunion and that was the best they could come up with this time! Hee! Hee! Juts a little dry humour. But seriously, they probably were tired of his consent refusals to join them.
From: Rocker
Thanks, you all make good points. Peter was very good on guitar, bass, piano, keyboards, etc. Mike was a pretty decent lead guitarist, as good as many from that era. Micky was okay on drums, but he didn't care if someone else played them as long as he sang lead. Davy was a good percussionist. I'm impressed that he's jamming on guitar nowadays! I'm gonna have to get out and see them the next time they come to town!
From: Penman
Well, they would be able to play their own music if Mike would just join them! It's proven that musical trios work, drums, bass, lead, but neither Micky nor Davy are at the point in their insturments where they could comfortably carry the show. It's the same as back in the sixties when Peter quit and they had to bring in Sam and the Goodtimers. It has everything to do with there needing to be at least two people who really know what they're doing. Mike has millions of reasons not to go back with them, but I don't think having a back-up band is his major point for refusing to join the tour.
From: Chris Coyle
Yes it's true, we have left the board for now. Our new home has a better lay out, faster posting and a moderator. That last post calling us closet gays was the last straw. Mickybabe, how dare you hide behind the internet and slur words, that in the real world would find you in court or worst. Would you say such things to someone's face? I doubt it..
Moving on..
Chris
PS
Cory I got your check and hope to pick you up a cd at tonight's show. email me ccoyle31@hotmail.com
From: The Kid
You don't see much of it. They were definetly good about that. I remembered this site... http://www.psycho-jello.com/monkees/dopeweed.html which has collected pictures of them smoking. Davy definetly tops out. Speaking as a kid though, seeing them smoking has no effect on me. Even present icons. Seeing them stoned, drunk, smoking, high, it's their life, and if some kid's looking to them as a role model for all aspects of life, that kid needs to find a hero closer to home.
From: Vixen
I would like to see a little ..how should I put this...style. No offense to Brad, but the board has been really messed up, html wise, for a while now.
I don't know that a moderator would help. As it seems, people always hate the moderator. People gripe about being censored, people say "if nobody wanted to hear it, it wouldn't get talked about." I speak from experience and from watching other boards. When a moderator actually does his job and moderates, people hate him. When a moderator doesn't do his job, people hate him too. Either way, there is going to be a lot of whining :-)
From: Mark T.
Hey Andrea, I'm glad you took the remarks seriously. However, there is no reason to go over-board as your response did. My original post was not overboard or snide, I believe it was presented in a thoughtful and intelligent manner.
Chris and I never declared ourselves, nor do we consider ourselves, "holier than thou." Perhaps you need to realize that in the adult world it is not smart to put words into someone's mouth or to characterize a person you have never met. I refer you to Sue, Cory, Scott, John, Ree, Deborah, Teresa, DHMF, etc., who have been here since day one, for a second opinion.
In my original post I never said this had to always be a serious place, I also said there was room for fun. So if we are "seriously boring folks" it is you once again making haste judgements out of the blue, something that was not done before. If I and the others are so boring, how come people keep coming back here to post? I can answer that...because it's one of the best discussion boards I've ever participated on here on the internet, and certainly the most fruitful one when it comes to the Monkees (thank you Brad).
And finally, us so-called "serious fans" have done plenty of "Monkeeing" around on this board since its inception. It just seems odd now that the place is being bombarded with 'love' threads or 'how cute they are' threads and the like. A young teenager obsessed with near 60 year old men is not 'normal', I'm sorry.
This will be my last post about this subject. I made my point in a thoughful, rational way without diving into the deep end. Plus, there's too many other awesome new posts to weed through and respond to besides arguing with you.
From: Lauren
Can someone tell me .. will the Monkees come to New Zealand or Australia on their 2001/02 tour?!!!! I hope so.. I came to America in March to see them and I desperately want to see them again it was so great.
From: Mark T.
Chris Cruz, I see your point. I wonder if this is a problem for Nez. He did permit the backing band to join the quartet for the second half of the show during the UK 97 tour. It worked out well.
However, to me, the Monkees are not one of those bands that I feel the need to always be seen up there playing alone, just them, with no backing band. Most big acts have backing bands. Hell, Paul McCartney has a backing band. Tom Petty has the Hearbreakers AND a couple others who round out the sound. REM does the same, as did the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, the Dave Matthews Band, etc. etc. They all had extra musicians onstage with them. Sure, the Monkees were one hell of a power trio in the Sixties when on the stage, but times have changed. A full band is now needed to round out the sound and re-create the records precisely the way they were made.
If Mike is haggling over the fact that the trio takes a back-up band out with them ( and a fantastic one at that), then I believe IMO that he's over-reacting. I for one was front row in March and watched Peter do the leads on "Clarksville," "PVS," etc etc. Micky did the acoustic guitar lead parts on songs like "Look Out" and "The Girl I Knew Somewhere." It's fine to me that they do the lead parts that way, but also have a band to fill out the sound.
From: Sammy
Help! Does anyone know how to get tickets for their show at Cal State Bakersfield on Aug. 19th?
From: Teresa in Texas
All I can remember is that Micky said something about "liquid paper"--you don't really need it any more since we have computers. So, that was a "nice" dig at Mike.
From: Dan
Hey, I'm still here. I'm still popping in once or twice a day and replying to the stuff that catches my eye. And as it happens, I am one of the people mentioned that exchanged e-mail addresses and screen names with others. And I assure everyone that we talk about LOTS of stuff off-board, not just the Monkees. We aren't neglecting you guys. If we wanna say somethin', we will. :) "Miss Blue Dork Stick" Christi is around, but not in reach of a computer for a bit, so she isn't currently able to post. I heard from her today though, and she had looked at the board and read through all the posts.
So fret not! The two of us are here.
From: cory
First of all, Re: curious about Mike: Mike wasn't approached. Everyone involved knew what the answer would be.
As far as the curious response to questions of his whereabouts on "The Early Show", my theory is that they want to give the impression that the 4 of them are just like they were on the show: happy, fun-loving friends. I don't think they want to get into an ugly, bitter split during a 5 minute tour-promotion segment.
From: Dan
I hear ya, Andrea, and you know I'm with you all the way. But this has all been covered before. This sounds cold and mean, but my belief is....We're here to voice our thoughts, we have every right to do so. We SHOULD CONTINUE to do so, whatever those thoughts may be, and if anyone is so turned off to the point of feeling compelled to leave? Well, I personally think that's an overreaction. But I'm going to say that what must be must be. If that's what it takes to allow us to continue here freely.
I would not have a problem with a moderator, depending upon the conditions that would be set. That is, what would the rules be? You know? I mean, nothing dirty has been said and even the swearing has been extremely minimal. I still consider this board, when it's not bickering, very friendly. It is only when people look for trouble that trouble happens.
There have been days when I've checked out the board and been bored silly 'cause nothing interested me. Did I rant about how uninteresting all of the most recent topics were and slam my door on you guys forever? No. And to those of you who are about to retort and say that it's different, I am aware that it's different. But it's still comparable, and I still maintain the belief that nothing really offensive has ever been said here.
Would I be persecuted if I made inquiry about an individual Monkee's sex life? Or drug experience? I would only be talking about the factual history of a the band we're here to discuss. But I know that would offend someone. Come on, we either have to draw the line somewhere, or else agree that there is no line and accept what follows maturely.
From: Teresa in Texas
Oh, I almost forgot--Peter also talked about the '97 tour and how Mike started out with them, but then he left and they couldn't find him, so they went to his house and there was 6 weeks worth of dust on everything and no Mike in sight. So, they basically said, no one's heard from or seen him in years. Peter also said last he's heard, Mike's in Santa Fe.
From: john
I don't want to sound like a snob. Alot of the newer posters are cool and I am glad to have met them. But I am not following the board closly anymore because of 1: the screwed up format and 2: the substance. I found that whole line about Davy sleeping with some woman or many women to be unnecessary on a board that is for celebrating the Monkees. Rocker posted a great topic about playing ability but got few responses. I am dissapointed in the current condition of the board. I long for the old days. Go ahead guys, jump all over me...
From: Steph
Welcome :)
My fav album has to be Headquarters. PAC&J is a close second, and I really like Head.
From: Lurker
Andrea....you are part of the reason why the old posters left! You say you can't figure it out, but hey, you and the others chose to go down the road of no return with all of those immature posts....so now you pay the price. Wake up! I can't stand when people create a mess and then try to divert the blame to somebody else and cry innocent, when it was you, Andrea, and your cohorts (the dork stick people) who ARE the problem! And to Estrella, the discussion would have never simmered down. The die-hards would always be around to talk Monkees. But they're all gone now so whoever said it before (Mark? Chris? Suzannetigger?) that the silly posters would ruin the board, was right ....and yet those same silly posters will probably be gone in a while. But again, so are the diehards gone, and because of that, the board will die, not because there is nothing to talk about. It's been 35 years and we're STILL talking.
From: Steph
Yeah - it's on the Shrek soundrack (which I immediately bought after seeing the movie). Smashmouth did a really cool version. Eddie Murphy's version is pretty funny. My sister and I went to see the movie (we were the oldest ones there without kids with us) - I highly recommend it :)
From: Ashley
I'm still here. I've been here since the very beginning. Posting if there is a topic I find interesting, like most of you. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere. : )
Ashley
From: Steph
LOL!! john - I nearly fell out off my chair!!!
From: Estrella
Well, it may have faster posting, but the reply function on that board is not working.
From: Jason
Hey evetyone, wondering if any of you are going to see The Monkees at Wolf trap in Vienna VA July 22nd. I'm in the 2nd row..cant wait!!!!!!!! My first Monkees concert was at Wolf rap in 89
From: Ashley
I emailed Fishof yesterday about the whole sercurity guard thing at Freedom Hill Amplitheater, and I got an email back today that said: I'm sending your email to the promoter. Did anybody eles that went to the Sterling Heights concert write to Fishof too?
Ashley
From: **Ashley**
Hey... don't hate on us Michiganders! LoL =)
Peace n Gleeb
From: Monkeephile
Having had Mike on tour in 97 which was fun I do have to say it's probably best he isn't there they only did about 1 and a half hour set when he toured with them and was very static.
From: **Ashley**
Don't mind Sara... she's Sara...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Ashley
I know this idea was brought up a while back, but I thought I'd post about it again anyway. I know this is a "wishfull thinking" kind of post, but IF there ever was a Monkee's "Storytellers", what songs would you want to know the story behind? I think it should only include songs the Monkees wrote, so the show would have to include Mike too(yet again, "wishfull thinking"). I'd like to hear the stories behind songs like "You just may be the one", "Sunny girlfriend", etc. I'd like to know what everyone else thinks too.
Ashley
From: **Ashley**
Am I the only one who liked Hey Hey It's The Monkees??? =/ Oh well... there is no fruit!! Sorry...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Julianna Michelle
I agree with Vixen. You know, if there was a moderator, there would be those who would jump all over him for overly doing his job, and those who would do the same for him under-doing his job. It really seems to me that the older posters of this board get hurt far easier than the newer/younger posters. Seeing as how the majority who has quit just before the miracle have been Mark, Chris, Monkeescott, DHMF, etc. Not to name names because I wish they still were here. Is it that hard to skip over posts you don't like? They made excellent posts and the board suffers without them here. I suppose that in all our lives, this board means nothing in the long run and so therefore is not worth the trouble. But why not live for the now. Give yourself a challenge and stick it out. A few were sooo positive that the silly posters would be gone in a few weeks or something, but it seems vice versa now, doesn't it. Which is a shame, I think. So many people could have jumped all over the thread about Davy being a womanizer but most just passed over it in disgust and left those intrested to their own devices. Which worked out great. It would be nice to have every poster on this board interact postively with eachother, but this isn't a utopia; it's an internet disscussion board! Not to say that nothing good can come of it (as DHMF has pointed out), I met a girl a year older than me on a similar board, she lives in Germany. I have now known her for over a year and if the ocean didn't seperate us, we would be as close as sisters. It is as if we once knew eachother, but one of us simply had to move away. And Stacey is now friends with Anna's best friend and so we have this small family all the way over the Atlantic Ocean and it's wonderful! The ironic thing about all this is that if people didn't reply to the silly posts, they would die out quickly, but since people ridicule them, they keep going and going until a nice granddaddy like Monkeescott is forced from the board (Or rather leaves of his own free will). Mind you, despite DHMF's attempts to reconcile; he really didn't mean any harm. But to no avail. Since I joined this board.... a few weeks ago (about a month), it is really different. Partly because of the technical difficulties; but it's much more chaotic now. It seemed so mellow, and layed back. Actually Monkeescott was the reason I stuck in here, because of his grandson, it was a MONKEEFAMILY!!!! But it's like the members of the Monkee family all caught some deadly disease, weeks after the new born baby arrived! (Bad analogy... sorry :o) We even found our backstage angel from our concert here! The one lady in the whole world we actually talked to backstage and who we owed something to, and we found her here! Amazing! I don't know about some people, but I usually don't get peronally hurt by this board, I usually laugh, "What a jerk!" or something like that, and leave it at that. It works great. And about talking about the Monkees's peronal lives on the board and how it's such an DISGRACE!!!!! I read on this page...from Brad himself... that the board was to discuss the buisness aspect of the MOnkees, the music, the show, the men they have become, the careers they have developed, as well as their personal lives... in a tasteful manner of course. Like Jessica being deaf... or Mike's wife/girlfriend (?) Victoria.... but a lot of people think that even that is a waste of time. How can we love these men and not discuss their personal lives? Music derives from within.... within can't all come from an office building or a studio room.... it comes from other places that we are not a part of, mostly. But does it hurt to discuss it on a simple interent board? It's not like we're walking into Mike's kitchen while he's having a family dinner! One more thing.... Lurker?... Is that you Mark? I really think it is. Just read the way he gets on Andrea's case... so hurt by it... apparently. And also the way he'll suddenly exclame things like "Wake Up!" So typically Mark... Welcome back babe! Don't be shy. :o)
Campagning for a rebuilt Monkee family, Amanda-Michelle
From: cory
Wow! Here's my two cents:
First of all, I'm stunned by the huge response to the new bulletin board! Where did all you people come from!? I can't even keep up with the discussions!
Secondly, every now and then someone posts something I find silly or even, occasionally, mean (either toward The Monkees or toward other post-ers) & I think the best response is to ignore them. IF there are freaks out there (and I'm not calling anyone in particular a freak - in fact, I think we all have a little freak in us or we wouldn't spend so much time posting messages on a Monkees website!), ignore their posts & they'll lose interest. I think nearly all of us - no matter the age - approach this board with SOME degree of seriousness, because people tend to be serious about the things they feel passionately about, anb that that tone of reverence will likely dominate the overall proceedings, even if there is the occasional freaky suggestion or broadly comic relief.
From: Julianna Michelle
Teresa, I'm glad you set him straight! Let us know if he replies! Jerk, I love when people state things about them that they don't know. Oh well, human nature, I guess. They don't listen to critics and such now anyway, so no real harm done, I suppose. Also Teresa, don't let anything on this board send you running, alright? Because it would really be a shame if we lost you too!
God is love!
From: cory
But, of course I thought Mike would be the savior who would deliver The Great Monkees Comeback Album! So what do I know? Maybe The Monkees are a product of the 60's & are just, by nature, unable to capture that magic in any other decade.
From: Julianna Michelle
Teresa, I'm glad you set him straight! Let us know if he replies! Jerk, I love when people state things about them that they don't know. Oh well, human nature, I guess. They don't listen to critics and such now anyway, so no real harm done, I suppose. Also Teresa, don't let anything on this board send you running, alright? Because it would really be a shame if we lost you too!
God is love!
From: cory
... or can Pete still get Stephen Stills?
From: SheLovesTork
I will be at the Monday Westbury concert. I have front row seats and will be in section B. Hope to see you there!
From: Mark J.
Here's another one: The way the Bee Gees play "Tragedy" nowadays in concert, the beginning sounds just like the guitar in "She"! (I can just hear Maurice take the lead vocal...)
From: Tyme
I don't want everyone to jump all over me and I'm deffinatly NOT taking sides. But can't we all just let by gones be by gones? It's over done with *poof* all gone. It's already happened. We can leave whatever happened in the past and let it stay there. If pple still want to continue to post here awesome, if some pple choose to leave all the power to them. It's their choice where they choose to chat and who they choose to chat with. It's nobody's fault about what's happening on this board. We all just happen to have different opinions of what we think fun is, and sometimes it just happens to rub pple the wrong way. But you know what? We can just get over it now. I will continue to post on this board for as long as I am welcome. I have been here since day one and haven't stopped posting since. I love ALL of my monkeebuddies here. I just hope that the ones that are still around stay around. So please, please, can we please stop pointing the fingers? Let's not drive anymore of our friends away. We *are* all friends right? A bunch of pple coming together on the internet to talk about the number one thing we ALL have in common, THE MONKEES! So, instead of fighting about silly posts, and who's fault what is, let's just continue to talk about what we're here to talk about. If you find a post to be silly, immature or inappropriote (sp? We shouldn't really have any bad post here anyways. I really wouldn't dig anything bad being said here) jsut don't read them or don't reply to them. All this does is cause more and more tension between the board members. Let's just let everything in the past go and start fresh again.
Peace and Gleeb,
Tyme
From: suzannetigger
when asked why Mike wasn't on tour with them peter commented on his dissapearance from the 97 tour stating they went to his house and the gate was locked and there was 6 inches of dust on everything. Basically turning into a joke that he walked on them
From: Estrella
You might want to try David Fishof's promotion company at dfishof@aol.com to see if they're going down under.
From: Stacey
Oh man....the age thing!!! That is probably the most grief I get from people for my loving the Bealtes and the Monkees. "Aren't they all dead?" No they're not dead!! John is, but that was a horrible unfortunate and unnatural death. :( Yes, and I hate having to keep comments to myself such as "Peter is sooo sexy!!!" Beacuse I mean, young 60s peter is sexy, but the Peter here and now is sexy too! Of course, I must be INSANE to think that an "old man" is sexy.... the people my age are such.....uncultured swine! Oh well. At least I'm not one of them! Ha! :)
From: Estrella
"Cal State's Amphitheater can hold approximately 2500 people -- there will be only 400 Reserved Seats, the rest is Lawn Seating.
For those of you wishing to purchase seats from my available block seats, note these are sold with DINNER INCLUDED ONLY. Pricing is $50.00 per person for center section, $40.00 per person for side section and $30.00 per person for lawn seating.
If you are interested in purchasing tickets, please contact me @: Classicstephanie@cs.com"
-- seen posted at various places, and no I'm not the one selling them! :)
From: cory
Just Great! Chris, I just wanted to let you know I so often REALLY appreciate your posts.
From: Estrella
Ah, okay, sweetie, you go ahead and think that.
From: Mark J.
Cool!
From: Estrella
Ah, okay, sweetie, you go ahead and think that.
From:
From: Tammy
She probably learned to speak and sing before she went deaf. Or maybe she was only partially deaf? Gleeb, Tammy
From: suzannetigger
I certainly agree with your points Mark and if I may add that while the back up band for this tour is terrific, they serve only to compliment the Monkees and do not deter or steal the limelight away from the three at all. Everyone there was there to see those three men perfom and I don't know if Alvin and the Chipmunks played back up if anyone would have really cared when Micky Davy and Peter walked on that stage it was all about them!
From: CT
I don't think the board is ruined. There were just as many posts today as there were when the others were here. Personally, I don't think a moderator is a good idea. But anyway, it's over and done with, so why don't we just forget about it and go on with our discussions.
From: Dan Lafferty
I noticed that. I wondered if it was intentional. Not a bad idea....You made your point in those three words and someone could gather what your post says without even clicking on it! Resourceful!!!
From: Lurker
No Tyme, I'm not your friend and neither is anybody else on this board. I'm not trying to be rude, so please don't take it that way. A friend is someone you can personally communicate with face to face, learn about the person through interaction and build on it from day to day. This is simply a discussion area on the internet to trade thoughts with other people who are fans of the Monkees.
From: Stacey
Soooo, did everyone watch the Monkees this morning on the Early Show? I even woke up at 7 AM just to record and watch it! And that is early for me considering I'm a high school kid on summer break who usually sleeps till noon. (Of course I did go back to bed as soon as it was over at 9:00! :) Yay, I was so happy to see them! I haven't seen them on TV in quite a while. Of course, I did meet them two months ago, so i guess I have NO ROOM to complain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) But I really thoroughly enjoyed how Peter broke in on Micky's conversation with (what's his name?) that reporter guy saying "I'm sick of you always being our spokesperson with that damn Vulcan example!" or something to that effect. I love peter!! And it's true, Mick needs to lay off the Vulcan thing. Of course, now his new analogy which he used was "It's like George Clooney really becoming and emergency room doctor" Oh, Micky, Micky, Micky........
But I didn't like how the reporter talked to each one of them, and then all these chicks screamed when he talked to Davy!! If you are going to scream for Davy, you'd better be screaming for Micky and Peter too! 'heart throb' indeed! :):):)
You know, I was in Santa Fe just this last weekend, but I didn't run into Mike. Too bad, huh? :)
From: Steph
When I found this board back in March, I was really psyched and was welcomed with "open arms" by Mark, Chris, Tyme, Suzannetigger, DHMF, et al. It was a great place to be a newbie and we had a lot of great discussions. Unfortunately things change - inevitable with all things. I am glad to have met my "MonkeeBuddies" like Andrea, Sue, etc. This board also helped me & Andrea to hook up and work together on the Monkeestock plan. I didn't even mind the crazy posts that showed up in the middle of the board :)
With a lot of new projects (including Monkeestock) and facing the danger of losing my job, I don't have as much time to devote to discussion boards - as great as the discussions have been. I tried to stay out of the last rehashes of this tiresome argument, but I'm now stating my piece. I love this board and the community of posters that was formed. A lot of you new posters are really fun to read and I hope you continue after this summer's burst of MonkeeMania. As for the "older" posters, I was sad to see them depart from the board, but I understand their frustration. I have joined them on the *other* board, but will continue to visit here when I can. I agree with Andrea however, that a moderator may be needed. I am also against harsh censorship, but I think that it is necessary when some people don't consider the feelings of other readers. I miss the community that developed from the old board, and I hope that once all this mess is in the past we can all get along and respect each other and the Monkees.
Peace & Monkeestock ~~Steph
From: cory
Man, I want to comment on so much, but I'm overwhelmed! But my main question is... I noticed below that there are references to a live album being sold at concerts. Is this something new or is it just the old "Live 1986" CD repackaged?
From: Julianna Michelle
I'll tell you where he is... he is SOOO "Lurker"! Is it just my imagination, or does anyone else see this? I mean, I see what he's talking about, because there is a difference between friends and aquaintances (although I'm sure he'd agrue that he is not the aquaintance of anyone either...) but that doesn't mean that friendships can't develop and it certainly makes things better to call eachother friends. It's not really that he's negative, he just really doesn't like... people? Or something. Not enough Tolerance. Read the book "A Patch of Blue", Mark, because it teaches how tolerance can be a wonderful and respected thing! And it can. Now, I'm not jumping all over you or attacking you, so please don't take it that way... But we both like the Monkees and well, that's a lot. I don't really agree with CT too much because I actually do want some of those who have left, to come back. But Oh well I suppose, eh. Tyme, I'm glad to call myself your Monkee buddy! (And Mark if that were his bag, but we don't want to push him into anything...) :o)
God is Love! Amanda
From: Mark J.
"Do I have to post this all over again...?
Didn't I do it right... the first time?
Do I have to post this all over again...?
How many times do I have to hit REPLY?
Didn't I... Didn't I...
Can I see my way to know what's really real...
They say time can play all kinds of tricks...
I know that's more than just some kind of deal...
Yeah, but I can find my way around 'cause I have my Dork Stick!
Didn't I... Oh, Didn't I......"
From: Coconut
Tuche! I could'nt have stated it better myself! I'm smellin the coffie!! is anyone else?!
From: suzannetigger
did everyone notice the size of the crowd at the today show segment? I thought it was a pretty good size
From: Dan
I think many of us are tip-toeing around something without acknowledging it: There is clearly more and more of a split between the posters here. Cliques have formed also, which is natural and inevitable. And, incidentally, Mark...oops, I mean, umm..what are you going by now? Lurker, is it? Well, I do consider some of the people here my friends. If you can't understand that, it's because you are resentful for not being a part of any of the cliques that have formed.
The bottom line: The Overly Sensitive Easily Offended Ones want a moderator to either scare us away or else to keep us in line. The Free Speakers Who Still Believe In A Three-Letter Word That Starts With "F" And Rhymes With "Run" are thinking that, if the others get offended enough, they'll just leave. Either way, in the end, there will be two groups, and we will be Monkee Fans Divided. Whatever. I don't care. I'm here to talk and share ideas and meet people. I've done that and continue to do that. And I know who my friends are and who I can count on. But the problem is...neither of these scenarios are really going to happen, and we are all stuck in an uncomfortable position.
From: Jennie
I got into this big argument with an uncle of mine (who's about 45, and usually pretty cool) he was going off about how strange it was that I liked the Monkees because (quoting Jimmy, my uncle) "They're older than I am!!!" to which I said, "yeah, and they're hotter too!!!" I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm attracted to senior citizens.
:)
From: confused
so, I see on the monkees2001 page a date in Raleigh, but I cant seem to find any info on this anywhere else. Is this show happening or was it cancelled? Its says July 24th.
From: jamie
On the Early show, I noticed that the three trumpet players weren't there. Does anyone know anything about them? I talked to the one with the curly hair in Jacksonville for a while, but I never found out his name. I hope they stick with the tour. I know they were with them on Live with Regis and Kelly.
From: confused
so, I see on the monkees2001 page a date in Raleigh, but I cant seem to find any info on this anywhere else. Is this show happening or was it cancelled? Its says July 24th.
From: Mark T.
Cory: It's a totally new Live CD, recorded in Las Vegas at the end of the spring tour! The trio and bassist Jerry Renino picked the tracks and Renino mixed and produced it. Here's the track list:
Intro/Clarksville
Little Bit Me
Randy Scouse Git
Auntie Grizelda
Valleri
Goin' Down
Lucille
Oliver Medley
Since I Fell For You
Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby
Higher and Higher
Girl
Two Part Invention In F
I'm A Believer
Papa Gene's Blues
That Was Then, This Is Now
Porpoise Song/Listen To The Band
Daydream Believer
Stepping Stone
Pleasant Valley Sunday
From: hmm
are they playing there on july 24th? I see the date listed on the monkees2001 website but nowhere else! was it canceled?
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly this is now the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record!
From: hmm
are they playing there on july 24th? I see the date listed on the monkees2001 website but nowhere else! was it canceled?
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly this is now the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record!
From: Mark T.
Upon the advice of Chris Coyle and Suzannetigger, I thought I'd better check this board out for the first time in a week, and what did I find when I arrived? I seem to be the Million Dollar Man around here! I'm sorry to disappoint, but I'm not the post-er named 'Lurker.' To Tyme, Dan and the others, did it ever occur to you that there may be other people who agree with me and my point of view?!?!?! EGAD, it's true! Shucks, Tyme and Dan, there are others in this world who don't want to play your little 2nd grade games of defining friends, and who realize how and why this discussion board has become what it's become.
Yes, it's true, Tyme and Dan, I'm seeking counseling today because I have no friends. Yes, I'm a loser who can't figure out how or what a "friend" is or how or where you can have them. Of course I'm being sarcastic and dumb, but only doing so to prove my point...you are being dumb too! Grow up! I have several friends from this board, Chris Coyle and Suzanntigger to name two. And why am I the bullseye of your frustrations? Have you two (and all the rest of you) not noticed that those two post-ers no longer participate here? (As well as a few others.) I'm not there slapping there hand everytime they want to come to this discussion board. Nobody is stopping them. Obviously they see things the same way as I do, about the board and about YOU, and they choose no longer to "lurk" around the place while your here. If anybody is being 'discriminatory', it's you two, for both Chris and Sue have written about their disdain openly to this board, and yet received no responses and no flame wars directed towards them! What a double standard. If you guys want to give me all the attention, how about sending me a birthday gift next week while you are at it!
Tyme and Dan, instead of playing conspiracy theory, why don't you go ahead and start some fruitful and intelligent conversations about the Monkees, here in this board, right here/right now. Come on, guys, I dare you! It might actually be fun! Oh no, Mark said the word FUN!!!!!! WOW! I'm cured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!
Anyway, back to my life and time to post on a board where my friends (YES! EGAD! HE HAS FRIENDS! PASS OUT NOW.) are and where it's worth spending my little free time! Because, it's certainly not worth it here.
(Rock on, Lurker.)
From: Ree
Hey Scott - What a Father's Day!
I knew it, I just knew it! I had a feeling that you will be going one more time! You better post what went on. I'll be looking.
What did you think of the Early Show. . . I thought they got a pretty good promo. The comment about Mike not being home was pretty good.
Ree
From: LURKER!!!!
Fishof sounds accomodating. I hope he is speaking truth about the album!
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly mine is the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record for this board
From: Teresa in Texas
Michelle, A couple of us have given away Monkee related stuff here on the board. I'm a member of another board and usually it's a no-no to sell on a board like this. Also, you have no recourse if something goes wrong. Some people here have mentioned that they're selling something on ebay, so we can check it out if we're interested. I think you ought to check out ebay or half.com if you want to sell something. Then you can let us know if you've listed it, in case there are interested buyers. Ebay and half.com will protect you in case a sale fails to go through. It's less risky.
From: Mark T.
Hey Jamie, check out my set list page and at the bottom there is a link to a fan page that talks about two of the horn section players.
I met Sam Albright, the blonde haired guy, backstage in March. Very cool dude who appreciated my comment on how great a job they did. (Click on the link Below):
http://monkees.net/docs/setlist.htm
From: Teresa in Texas
Hey, guys, I heard from Mr. Sherrington yesterday. He e-mailed me back and said, "well, I was just trying to be funny." I certainly don't think it's funny to perpetuate a 35 year old myth. Hopefully, he understood why I was upset with what he wrote.
As for the board, I am sad at seeing so many wonderful people leave. I'm not sure if I can stay much longer anyway. I mostly wanted information on concerts. I love seeing all the reviews, and I'm still hoping desperately that they'll come to Texas. But, I do have other things calling me in my life as well. I'll see what I can do. Thanks so much, Julianna Michelle!
From: suzannetigger
Wow what a great fathers day present. you brought those boys up right I'd say lol! I know how happy your are about going Monkeescott and have a great time.
From: me
Raleigh, NC concert info
July 24, a Tuesday, at 8 PM.
Tickets are on sale through Ticketmaster.com or by calling 919-834-4000 .
The show is actually in Cary, NC, just outside of Raleigh. It's at the Regency Park Amphitheater. There are a thousand reserved seats at $33 and then general lawn admission at $23. There is no seating chart available.
(this was from the alert list here at monkees.net--go sign up for it, if you haven't already--just go to the front page and look for the alert list and sub to it to keep up with the news)
From: Mark T.
Rocker: Micky Dolenz is one of the most under-rated American pop/rock singers of our time. I can say that with a serious face and I will argue that point with anyone. He is the voice and sound of the Monkees' music.
Perhaps I will agree that from the start, the session players should have been credited on the albums. What exactly was Kirshner and company afraid of? Actually, back then, there were no big detailed liner notes accompanying albums like there are today in modern CD booklets. Gosh, did the Beatles even get credit on their albums as to what instruments they played on what song? I don't think they did.
My father to this day always remembers the stigma of them "not playing their own instruments," and unfortunately, I don't think that will ever go away.....no matter how much us true fans know the real story! Ya just gotta keep spreading the word and set the record straight!
From: John
Yo! I feel left out if you and the other old posters have moved to another board. Tell me where so I can get back in the fold. You, Cory, Cris, Suzietigger, left me with no forwarding address! jbordeau@sanconwar.
From: Mark T.
1. Headquarters
2. Pisces
3. HEAD
From: john
From: Mark T.
Cory, I must admit, Mark McGrath and Sugar Ray are a guilty pleasure for me. Their music takes me back to the not-so-distant past when I was in college partying and living in the dorms. :)
From: John
I agree with you plea. Now if brad could just fix the FORM of the board, life would be alot nicer.
From: **Ashley**
Hey girl you're not the only one who thinks that the Monkees were and still are cute! You're not alone!
Peace n Gleeb
From: Been around a long time
This is to used I do not think you should reveal the name of the monkee that you felt used you. There are many of us who do have a good idea who he is and sorry to say that is the way he is. Men in general will tell you what they want you to hear if they want to get in your pants. If anyone goes alone into their tour bus or backstage into their dressing room then you are asking for it. I do feel sorry for you because it was not a good experience for you. When you mentioned in your message that he made you feel special for 30 seconds that to me is not too good.
From: Mark J.
I thought about that one, but ya beat me to it...
You know, if you see nine of those things together at one time, I guess that would be Nine Times Blue Dork Stick.
From: Loreli
it is now
From: **Ashley**
And you shouldn't be! I am too... and proud of it! =)
Peace n Gleeb
From: no one
The show is still on, be forewarned there maybe someone there, who cann't keep her mouth shut, so be careful! And you know who are in VA
From: Mark T.
Ouch! If that's humor, that's a biting humor towards Mike! Unfortunately I was at work and forgot to tape the show this morning, a true rarity for me to miss a Monkees TV appearance! :( I wish I had heard how Peter said it to see how he was trying to come across. Hmmmmmmm.
From: shannon
Glad you heard from Fishof. I have one question for Fishof WHAT EVER HAPPENED to the VANITY FAIR PHOTOS? I do not believe half of the things David Fishof says. I do believe the Monkees will make a album. I am praying it will be better hen Justus which I thought was one of the worse thingsthey ever recorded. I do not believe they willstay together for now on. I see them on and off touring. If they keep this up and keep doing it just like before the attendence will go way down again because people will tire of them. I have seen the show already 3 times and that is quite enough for me. I rather see them solo now.
From: suzannetigger
Jennie, I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read your senior citizens comment! I'm sure David Micky or Peter consider themselves in that catagory quite yet. My daughter has also run into quite a few classmates who don't understand her facination with the Monkees but slowly she has been winning them over, or maybe brainwashing them to her side of the picture! So keep on educating those who do "get it" Even my fuddy duddy old husband who claims he doesn't care for the Monkees can be seen singing along to their tunes every now and then.
From: Dan
As a couple of us have been "challenged" to post something new and unrelated to all the crap that was going on, and something Monkee-related, I am stepping up and accepting the challenge.
Anyone care to share their Ideal Dream Setlist, including the actual sequence, and different versions? Which song, if Last Train to Clarksville wasn't an option, would make a great opening number?
I think "That Was Then, This Is Now" would make a good opener, and I'd like to see "Your Auntie Grizelda" and "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow" closer to the end of the show. "(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone" works well at the end of the show, and "Pleasant Valley Sunday" really is a great closing number. But "I'm a Believer" I would like to see somewhere in the middle. And if I had to pick a song that isn't "Pleasant Valley Sunday" to close with? Well....I'd have to say either "(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone" or "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow)". "Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere" and "As We Go Along" would be good towards the end of the show, and I'd definitely like to see Peter's rendition of "I Don't Think You Know Me" in there somewhere.
There you have it. I could have done a whole setlist, but I'm just not in the mood. :)
Later,
Dan
From: Ree
The comment Peter made about Mike was something. Basically said that he was not asked. Then it went into the bit about Mike not being home, locked gates, no notes and dust everywhere. Davy commented that if you hear from Mike to let them know.
From: Deidre
Just received a call today from the Northampton Box Office concerning the Thursday, July 19th concert at the Pines Theater in Florence, MA. The concert has been moved to another venue, the Calvin Theater, located in Northampton, MA. For those of you with tickets already, you may want to call the box office at 1-800-THE-TICK or (413) 586-8686 to verify your new seating (mine are basically in the same place). Also check out this website for box office info and directions to the theater: http://www.iheg.com/home.htm
(Copied direct from AMM)
From: Ree
Thanks again Mark! I appreciate that. Just absorbing and digesting the info given.
From: Freedoms Child
Did anyone go to the Knoxville Tennessee show last friday. I saw Peter on the local news but I couldn't attend...please someone give ME A REVIEW AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!
dona nobis pacem, FREEDOMS CHILD
From: Ree
You welcome! Thanks John.
From: Freedoms Child
Did anyone go to the Knoxville Tennessee show last friday. I saw Peter on the local news but I couldn't attend...please someone give ME A REVIEW AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!
dona nobis pacem, FREEDOMS CHILD
From: Tyme
Stacey, you are my goddess! I'm glad alot of us youngin's still think that Peter is till one sexy...you know what... :)
I'm not afraid to say it! I say it everyday! Say it loud and proud and don't care about the ridicule! Just say it one day be like "Peter Tork is still a sexy b***h!"
After a while people get used to hearing it and they get over it. Now, my friends just tease me, and I joke to. If we see hott guys on the street I always tell my friends that he has to be at least 60 to turn MY head! hehe
Tyme
From: MonkEShyn
Yeah, I would love that. Maybe have the 3 guys there and have Mike come later as a "suprise" They could do the hits as well as some of the other non commercial hits, something like "All of your toys", etc. Again, wishful thinking!
From: Tyme
HEAD
From: Julianna Michelle
Hey Mark, If you give me your address I'll send you a birthday present! No joking. :o)
Peace, Amanda
From: suzannetigger
lol oh no John don't do that again! I'd hate to see you in the slammer for harassment or something!
From: Julianna Michelle
Hmm... you know, I really liked what they sang at our concert. I'd like them to open with something really inspiring like Listen to the Band. I'd love for them to sing more of their songs from Justus. Definitely Micky should sing "Never Enough" and "Unlucky Stars", and Peter should sing "I believe you". We really wanted Pete to sing "Gettin in"! Uh... "What am I doing Hanging 'Round" would be ideal, but strange not in Mike's voice. "Can you dig it?" definitely should be there. A good closing sequence would be... "Porpoise Song" and then... I really did like "Daydream Believer" being last (despite my grudge for it, it was magical!) O yeah, Davy should sing "So goes love"! I love it, man!
That's fun. Thanks Dan. Now let's see how many responses it gets...
God is love!
From: The Kid
I've been trading emails with all three of them since I saw them in Vegas. Their names are Eric Biondo (trumpet, short, black hair), Greg Biggler (trombone, curly black hair, glasses) and Sam Albright (saxaphone, blond) Now that they're on tour, they can't reply as much, but they said Regis and Kelly was really fun, and that they weren't going to be on The Early Show. Still waiting to hear why from them. Most of what I learned about them I got from www.the-monkees.net We mostly just talk about music and the tour. Apparently, they're having a great time!
From: Tyme
Ok, so "friend" was the wrong word to use I guess. I was just trying to make a point...goodness. You needn't be so rude "lurker", I was just trying to mend the path and get on with everything. But it seems that you are trying to just keep stirring up the action. Forget trying to be nice...
From: Christi
You counted the posts?? LOL
From: Tyme
Mark,
For someone who claims to be an adult you are very rude and immature! Did I ever attack you once in my last post? No, I did not. Did I say once anything silly or ridulcous about the Monkees in my last post? No, I did not. Have I ever fully contributed to any of the more "sillier" post on this board? No, I don't think so. So why is it that you choose to pick ME, out of all the pple you chose to bash in your last post. No, you are not the man, you just happen to be mentioned in several posts because of yer views on the monkees and the pple on this board. you know what? Good for you, I'm glad you like the monkees, and love dicussing them. But wake up! I was only trying to mend the road so we could all get on with this dicussion board and forget all this silly nonsense. But you, who have not been on this board in more than a week, have the audacity to show up here and start saying mean and terrible things to me. Have I ever once said anything, ANYTHING mean and terrible to you? Huh? Have I ever? You know, this may be the internet, and I may not know you, and will never know you. But, I still have feelings, and, maybe you don't read very well, but I believe that a perfectly stated the purpose of my last post. Do I need to say it again? Well, no I don't think so. Seeing I'm one of the few pple who actually approached the subject in a civilized way. I guess maybe I won't post here anymore. Seeing as no matter how hard I try to be nice and not take sides I still become attacked.
Peace and Gleeb to all my MonkeeBuddies. Keep in touch ok? TorkyTyme@hotmail.com
Tyme
From: suzannetigger
I just won a Mike Nesmith CD Hits keep coming from Ebay and am anxiously waiting it's arrival. It's the first solo album of any of the guys I've bought so I'm hoping that you Chris may have some listening advice for me. I'm sure you must have this one in your collection from what I have read on this board you seem to have the most extensive Nesmith collection. Is this a good solo cd to start out with? is it more country or pop sounds? what other solo cd's of Nez's would be good for me to purchase? Is it better to try to start in chronilogical order when buying them? Any buying and listening advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I know you are busy moving and all so don't feel you have to rush to answer this post. tommorrow will do fine! LOL
Sue
From: Deborah in Clearwater
The concert was excellent!! I was right next to the stage where Peter was. I even was able to get his autograph on my picture of the four of them from the sixties. I am sorryabout the girl who got used by Davy and to Jan who was given a hard time about getting a pass backstage and meeting them. A girl that was right behind me got a backstage pass. Some guy was just handing them out to people down by the stage. I wasn't lucky enough to get back there but my picture made it back there and Peter signed it and remembered it also. He should have I flashed it in his face every song they sang. Oh yeah and I wrote down the set list. Last Train was the opener of course. Here Comes Tomorrow, For Pete's Sake,Girl I Knew Somewhere, Valleri, Randy Scouse Git, Mary Mary, Auntie Grezelda (Micky on Drums for those last two songs) I Wanna Be Free, I'll Love you Forever (Davy solo) Goin Down, Can You Dig It, (Davy solo) Girl, Higher and Higher, A Little Bit Me, Peter did a Bach solo, No Time, Long Title, She Hangs Out, (Micky solo) Since I fell For you, (Peter solo) Lucille, (Davy solo) Oliver medley, That was then This is Now, Porpoise Song, Listen To the Band, Daydream Believer. There encore was I'm a Believer, Steppin Stone and Pleasent Valley Sunday. I'll be at the Sarasota show July28th second row. See ya all there!!
From: Tyme
How old are they? One of them looked pretty young at the lowell show (bear in mind I had balcony seats for most of the concert) I had to turn to one of my girlfriends and ask them whether or not he was a young musical prodigy of some sort. He looked young enough to be in the high school band! (yey to all the band geeks out there, we rule.)
Tyme
From: suzy1163
WHAT A SHOW!!! I drove all the way from Birmngham,AL to see them and it was Magnificent!! I tried really hard to get back stage but they just wouldn't budge. They made everyone have such a good time because they were having fun on stage too! I would to see them again. What's the future hold for a 2002 tour anyone?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
LOL! I had thought about calling it the Tork stick but didn't want people to make bad guesses as to what it was. If ya know what I mean. LOL JK
Peace Gleeb and Blue TORK sticks Christi
From: suzy1163
WHAT A SHOW!!! I drove all the way from Birmngham,AL to see them and it was Magnificent!! I tried really hard to get back stage but they just wouldn't budge. They made everyone have such a good time because they were having fun on stage too! I would to see them again. What's the future hold for a 2002 tour anyone?
From: Mark T.
Sue, Chris will most definitely be able to give you a great review of "And the Hits Just Keep on Comin'".
For extra reference after Chris' review, refer to this link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A5bkmu3t5an2k
and this link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bp9q8b5z4tsq4
From: Dan
Welcome welcome welcome welcome back!!!!!
From: Jennie
Hmmm...and it just so happens that 'Tragedy' is my favorite Bee Gees tune!
From: just-ice
anybody have any info on more west coast action? it seems highly unlikely that they would do only 1 concert in CA, but this is fishof we're dealing with here...
From: suzannetigger
yes I did LOL. So now everybody knows I have no life!
From: CT
I think its working now, cuz i was on there today and it looked like they had deleted the whole board and started over again. Gleeb, CT
From: Chris Coyle
Sue,
The Cd you have on the way was the forth album Mike recorded for RCA. His band had just slit up and only Red Rhodes his steel guitar player remained. Red also plays steel on The Monkees "Steam Engine".
Anyway, RCA told Mike they wanted more hits like "Joanne" which was a top 20 gold single for Mike. Mike's albums were selling less and less each record. So Mike titled this LP "And The Hits Just Keep On Coming" kinda a snide remark for RCA. This album only featured Mike and Red. Moving closeraway from counrty and more poetic. I think you will like... put on some low dimmed lights and sit back and listen.
Chris
From: jamie
I know he's the guy that you all have been emailing, but what exactly is he "supposed" to be doing for the Monkees? Noticed there were a lot of jokes about him not doing hardly anything for them. Is he just their representative or what?
From: suzannetigger
I totally gained my daughter's respect this past weekend while at a local Fiel days parade I pointed out to her the Tuba Players marching by in our local high school band and told her thats what your mother used to play when she marched in school band. She was awestruck and told me "You were tough Mom!"
From: jamie
I know he's the guy that you all have been emailing, but what exactly is he "supposed" to be doing for the Monkees? Noticed there were a lot of jokes about him not doing hardly anything for them. Is he just their representative or what?
From: Christi
Thanks for clearing that up. LOL
From: crazycatt
Hi.Any one going to either (or both!)the cape cod (7/13) or the FREE Boston concerts(7/14)???
From: Jennie
Well, all of them are my favorite (I'm so indecisive!) but since I was listening to 'Present' last night, I guess that's my current favorite. In a few days it will be a different one....
From: Julianna Michelle
(Haha, that's pretty punny. No tyme, No Time, get it? I crack myself up!) I meant.... no Tyme, don't go! I don't know how you feel about me, but it looks like Mark T. isn't comming back, so he can't single you out if he's not here. I don't think anyone else has ever picked you out specifically and ridiculed you, so there's really no reason to leave, is there? I just really really don't want everyone to leave. You'll be, the what? Like 7th or 8th person to leave. Too many!!! And your a fun gal, I wish you would stick around. (Please? :o) Your Monkee Bud, Amanda
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
Oh my goodness! I just startled my dog awake after reading your song! I laughed so hard! I am glad to find this controversial stick so interesting. I LOVE reading what funny things might be said next! Keep em coming!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks! Christi
From: Julianna Michelle
Does anyone here know what ever happened to David Pearl? I mean, is he still good friends with Davy? And, what about Peter's first wife, Jody Babb? They got married in '64, but divorced the same year... What was that about? Just a fluke?
Legalize Frodis!!
From: suzannetigger
thanks for the references links and input Mark and Chris. Now I have just one more question for tonight. On Pieces album the song Cuddly Toy I really like Micky and Davy's harmonization but who is doing the background Ahhhhhs? Is it Peter and Mike? Boyce and Hart? some Unknowns? I really can't distinguish who's voices they are. Anybody know?
From: Jan in Myrtle Beach
Could I ask you to email me? I'd like to talk about the concert if you would!
luvdavy@hotmail.com
From: Ree
Hey John, with the luck you are probably having you might make the connection this time with Nez! Ha!
You might take Suzanne's advice and Behave!
From: saturdayschild
From: Chris Coyle
The Beach Boys didnt play on their albums after the first 2 records until the end of the 60s. I'm glad they didn't myself.
As for The Monkees, I do think Don K was trying to hid the fact they weren't a real band. If they came out front and gave the credits, maybe we wouldnt have to be answering these same questions today. But no albums back then gave credits for these LA guys that were used. I have to tell you..they were on EVERYTHING out of LA. It's just the media thought The Monkees were a real band before they were a TV show. It makes sense today how they came to be and how they progress into playing their instruments. If they hadn't become a real band I dont think we'd be talking about them today.
Nuff said
Chris
From: Estrella
His official role I guess would be promoter, though I'm not sure what that job entails. He and his team did something like auction four tickets and backstage passes only to get the word out, it didn't matter if anybody made a bid or not. I don't know if he also helps book gigs.
On a national level, there's little promoting of the tour, but on a region by region level, I'm guessing Fishof tries to get venues to be interested in booking The Monkees.
From: Chris Coyle
The Monkees pretty much did all the vocal work on Pisces. I'm sure Chip and maybe Bill Chadwick also contributed to vocals on the album if even they might be uncredited.
Chris
From: Estrella
Fishof doesn't have them. The photographer that did take the pictures no longer works for Vanity Fair and can't be contacted it seems.
Vanity Fair owns the rights to publish those photos first, and until they do Fishof can't do anything about the photos.
From: MonkEShyn
Hi. New to the Monkees Site, but a fan for most of my life. What ever happened to the CD that supposed to have the Monkees singing their songs with Natural? I saw that there is a CD at the concerts. Any info??
From: Estrella
No, they're scheduled to play at Cary, NC (a few miles from Raleigh) on the 26th. It's also listed at fantasma.com, just look under Concert Schedule and for the month of July.
If you want a slightly more updated summer tour schedule with some links try: http://members.tripod.com/~s3tar/monkees/summertour.html
From: Estrella
I thought he just did that to coincide with the point of Justus?? If the man wanted to tour at all, even in his own way, he probably would have done so already.
From: linda
To anyone that has read the alt.monkees.music about the Fraud alert posted by Donna Davis. This person is spouting off false accusations on me. I was not home when this alleged incident took place, as I was at work from 4 pm to 11 pm and did not get home close to midnight. I do not wish to have contact with this person as she does not have her facts straight and is causing me great embarrassment. I can no longer get on amm and a friend notified me of said post.
From: Estrella
I never said there should be an age limit on Monkee fans in general; I was mentioning if silly jokes can't be made on this discussion board (and every time one is made, the joker's age has to be asked "and how old are you?"), maybe it would be preferred that those 21+ should be only allowed on this board if that's the case.
From: MonkEShyn
As for the question of going to the PNC Center, I'm going. I will be on the lawn, though. Have fun tonight!
From: Lhc
Thank all of you for welcoming me and I like the choices.Headquarters is another favorite of mine.By the way sorry for posted three times-not sure why that happened.
From: tv guy
i too traveled from birmingham to knoxville for the concert. there was not a bad seat in the house. natural played about 40 minutes. there was a 20 minute break to set the stage up and then out came the monkees for roughly 2 hours. they started with last train and ended with daydream believer. the encore was i'm a believer, steppin stone, and pleasant valley sunday. in between peter played lead guitar and keyboards, micky played rythm guitar and the drums on 2 songs (auntie grizelda and mary, mary), and davy played guitar a little and percussion. in their "solo" sections, micky did since i fell for you, peter did lucille and his bach solo, and davy did girl instead of the oliver medley. during girl he came out into the audience and really caused a stir. they all appeared to be having lots og fun...making each other laugh as well as us in the audience. having only seen the 86 tour...i was more than impressed with the performances of not only the monkees but the backing band. i bought the live cd and while it's good...it's not as good as the show i saw. so i'm hoping they will put out a dvd of one of the summer shows.
From: Tyme
LOL! Yer daughter is right to say you are tough, and bravo to you! We have boys in our marching band that can barely lift the tuba without complaining (but they're band geeks so its ok!). Although I play a heavy instrument myself, (The melophone, it's front heavy so it kills my back) it's no where near the size and weight of those blasted tubas!
From: Andrea - Monkeestock 2001
I know you must have heard about the bunch of us that are going to "Monkeestock" (our code word for the free show in Boston)!!! Well, maybe you haven't...go to my website www.fanstuffonline.com and see what it's all about. We're planning lots of groovy stuff to do while we sit on the lawn waiting for the Main Event. I really wish I was going to the Cape Cod show too. My dream was to follow the tour bus up to Boston from the Cape and hopefully get a peek at the guys while they're in their travels. Steph (my Monkeebuddy from this board) and I will be heading up the circus that is Monkeestock at The Hatch Shell on Saturday from the morning till night. Like I said, check out the website and join us! We'll be hard to miss, even amongst the other 30,000 people they're expecting to attend. We've got BIG plans!!!
Peace, Gleeb, and Monkeestock, ~Andrea
From: Tyme
I'm not sure if the word "cucumber" was mentioned in Lowell, but I'm sure a joke stated by Micky that evening had a similar affect. It was the randy scouse git intro right?
From: monkeeich@hotmail.com
hey jan my name is teresa bjorlokken and the fact is my dadnez is acool man and while I hope you get to see the guy next year e-mail me back soon thanks teresa nezmith.at monkeeich@hotmail.com
From: Estrella
The re-recorded three songs "Valleri", "Steppin' Stone" and "Daydream Believer" that feature Natural as back-up singers has been reported to be in the hands of Perlman's TransContinental label, who's planning or maybe waiting for a better distribution deal(?). This delay had made Fishof upset because he hoped to send the recordings to radio stations during the spring tour. Who knows if those recordings will ever be heard by the public.
From: Andrea
Thank you, thank you, thank you! And just so you know, I'm not going to give Lurker/Mark T. the satisfaction of responding to any of his stupidity anymore. If he wants to be a grouch, that's fine with me. Just as long as he doesn't do it on MY website.
Speaking of which...Dan, why don't you join us over at the www.fanstuffonline.com message board? Not trying to steal you away, just sayin' you'd fit in really well. I will never leave monkees.net, and I don't expect anyone else to either. There's too much cool stuff and awesome people around here to leave!
Anywho, at fanstuff, we goof on each other, but we still have great talks about THE REAL ISSUES.
Thanks again for welcoming me back :) (Another thing that proves we can be "friends" and not know what the other one looks like!)
~Andrea~
From: Monkeescott
Hi Ree! Yes it was a suprise to see that the boys had not only bought me a ticket , but one for them too!!!! They are going with me!!!! I loved the Early Show..worth the wait..yes i loved the statement about Mike too it was great...I feel the same way about him...gotta luv our Threekees!! I will have a full report and some good pics, hopefully....Scott
From: Monkeestock or BUST!
Hi Teresa. I wrote that moron an email after I saw your post the other day, but he didn't respond. I couldn't help myself after I read his article. I mean, not only was his comment ignorant and inaccurate, but it was not applicable at all to the topic!
I told him I didn't expect a retraction, but I at least expect him to get his facts straight (even non-sports facts) before he writes another column.
From: Jennie
OMG! No, don't listen to them! Do it! Do it!!! I need to know two things before I die:
1) The REAL story behind JFK's assassination 2) Why Mike is so cranky about the Monkees
If you find out anything from Nez in your drunken stupor, be sure to write it down so you can tell us all when you detoxify.
:)
From: iluvmnez
i'm going to the cape cod concert!!
From: Estrella
"But, you know, computers, so maybe he'll be back around."
From: iluvmnez
i'm going to the cape cod concert!!
From: Mark T.
Boyce and Hart were pretty much, if not completely, absent from the HEADQUARTERS and PISCES sessions. They were none too happy that Chip Douglas had become the full time producer for the Monkees. They had also set out on a solo career and had a minor hit in 1967 called "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight."
From: cape cod here i come
i'm going to the cape cod concert! is anyone going to the one at Look Park on July 19th?
From: Christi
Naw! I was curious also about how many new posts were up today. It was just funny that you counted. Think about it, now there are tons more with all the replies to all the new posts!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Andrea - Monkeestocker
Just got his email an hour after posting this...here's my note to him, followed by his retort.
Mr. Sherrington:
I find your quote, "several members of the Monkees had no musical aptitude whatsoever" to be untrue, ignorant, and unnessecary. Please tell me which of The Monkees had not musical aptitude. I'm sure you're an intelligent man, and obviously you feel a passion for sports, but why are you bringing up myths about The Monkees in your column?
Can you even name the members of the group? It's plain to anyone who's a fan of The Monkees that you are not aware of their many talents. Please refer to one of the many websites devoted to the music, personalities, and television show of The Monkees. Here are a few:
www.monkees.net www.themonkees.com www.fanstuffonline.com www.monkees.com www.davyjones.net www.rhinorecords.com/monkees http://members.aol.com/JoeAlterio/mrzero.html
I don't expect a retraction or anything, just please get the facts straight before you print untruths, even if they don't have anything to do with sports.
A reader from New Jersey,
Andrea Della Rosa *******************************************
Andrea: As a matter of fact, I can name all of them. Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork, Michael Nesmith and Davey Jones. I even know that Nesmith's mother invented white out. Don't get me wrong: I liked their songs. But they were a product of TV show. And besides, I was just having fun. Sorry if I offended you.
Kevin Sherrington ************************************************
So, what do you guys think?
~Andrea~
From: Estrella
On the liner notes of the LTTB box, it credits Micky as background vocals though I would throw in Mike imo.
From: Andrea - Monkeestocker
Just got his email an hour after posting this...here's my note to him, followed by his retort.
Mr. Sherrington:
I find your quote, "several members of the Monkees had no musical aptitude whatsoever" to be untrue, ignorant, and unnessecary. Please tell me which of The Monkees had not musical aptitude. I'm sure you're an intelligent man, and obviously you feel a passion for sports, but why are you bringing up myths about The Monkees in your column?
Can you even name the members of the group? It's plain to anyone who's a fan of The Monkees that you are not aware of their many talents. Please refer to one of the many websites devoted to the music, personalities, and television show of The Monkees. Here are a few:
www.monkees.net www.themonkees.com www.fanstuffonline.com www.monkees.com www.davyjones.net www.rhinorecords.com/monkees http://members.aol.com/JoeAlterio/mrzero.html
I don't expect a retraction or anything, just please get the facts straight before you print untruths, even if they don't have anything to do with sports.
A reader from New Jersey,
Andrea Della Rosa *******************************************
Andrea: As a matter of fact, I can name all of them. Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork, Michael Nesmith and Davey Jones. I even know that Nesmith's mother invented white out. Don't get me wrong: I liked their songs. But they were a product of TV show. And besides, I was just having fun. Sorry if I offended you.
Kevin Sherrington ************************************************
So, what do you guys think?
~Andrea~
From: The Kid
They're all in their early to middle twenties. I personally think Eric looks the youngest. He's really short. If you can hit the lowest of band geekiness, I've hit it. I'm a 14 year old girl, and not only am I in the school band and orchestra, I play in a punk band on the side, as well as a Bagpipe band. That's the gift of being a drummer. You fit everywhere. I've been playing bass drum for the pipe band since I was 11, and let me tell you, at the Highland Games, when all the bass drummers line up for mass bands, and there's these big forty year old guys with 'skinny' drums, which weigh about half as much as a full one, and little 'ole me, staggering under the weight of a full drum, they quit their moaning pretty quick :)
From: joshea
I saw them tonight. Great Concert. Saw them in 1986 at the Arts Center and 1987 at The Pier. I thought they were better tonight. More clowing, More personal
I had great seats this time. Row F dead center. In 1986 I had lawn seats (in a smaller Garden States Arts Center)and The Pier was General Admission James
From: The Kid
Yeah. We were screaming for the tympani. And then for 'The Beatles' and then because he said 'Cucumber' Typical stuff that I wouldn't do if I'd really thought twice....
From: Dan
Totally, Andrea. And thanx for the invitation! I'll check it out!
From: Ashley
Isn't it weird how they letter the rows? Ya, if you have double letter seats, your closer!? Well... I guess I shouldn't act like I'm complaining because I have row FF.
Ashley
From: Susie in Seattle
Wow! By going to http://members.home.net/joesocean/ you can hear what I mean! They just released their debut album on the 4th. These guys are amazing! They play in Seattle every once in a while and I just love em. Thought you guys would too. See ya :) -Susie
From: Stacey
Yah, everyone thoght my sister was hot! Shoe Suede Blues opened for the Monkees, and backstage when we were talking to them, Peter introduced Lacey (my sister) to the drummer and told her "you know our drummer wants to take you home with him" needless to say, Lacey IS my hero now!!!!!!!!! ;)
Yah, it was partially her good looks that got us backstage. I think maybe it was just a fluke that we got back! We were the last people who were let back, and there was only one other person who got backstage without a pass. But dont think I didn't get a full appreciation from it!! I love them soooo much!!! And I actually know more songs than "I'm a Believer"!!!! Not to brag, but I knew all the words to every song they sang that was by them originally. And a couple others, too! (Lucille, Purple Haze...) :p :) ;)
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From: Mark J.
Woah! Bizarre "wavelength" thing goin' here... (Prob. 'cause I'm from the East Coast originally...)
Wait a minute: Each band does a song called "Words" - one of my favorites from BOTH bands...
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From: Teresa in Texas
'Course, Peter said it with a smile on his face, but I could feel the irony in it. Also, what I take away from the liquid paper joke is that since people really don't need liquid paper any more, likewise, the Monkees don't really need you know who any more. I'm kind of unwilling to type that, but that's the sense I'm getting. I do love Mike, but he's just an enigma.
From: SUSAN IN NJ
THE CONCERT WAS WONDERFUL ! I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH ENERGY THEY HAVE AND HOW MUCH FUN THEY HAVE SINGING AND DANCING ! THE AUDIENCE WAS GREAT .. WE HAD A BALL ! BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES ... STILL LOVE MICKEY !!
From: Teresa in Texas
I think it was one of the first posts on the Monkees Alert that came through last night--a lady named Eileen said she had seen the Monkees perform in 1963(???) and had gotten their autographs on a menu. This can't possibly be right can it? I mean, they didn't hold auditions until 1965. Do you think she got the year wrong? And I kind of have a hard time believing that they performed anywhere that early in the going, even before the show premiered. Anyone else notice this?
From: Teresa in Texas
Hey, Andrea, That's basically what he said to me, too. If he gets enough flak from people, who knows, there might be an apology later on. I'll let you know if I see anything.
From: Jennie
Do you have the new Bee Gees album?
From: Loreli
were'nt they awesome! sean looked great as davy jones and his litte onterage.....the band was great and i LOVE those backup dancers! lol, i took a bunch od pics! i hope they come out ok!
From: Chris Coyle
She has the date wrong. There was no Monkees in 1963. There wasn't even a Beatles in America yet.
Chris
From: Nezhead
What on earth do you mean 'an enigma'? Mike is the lead guitarist and singer/songwriter in the band. Peter stands in for him on lead guitar when he isn't on stage, but no one has ever presumed to stand-in when it comes to writing the songs, even though both Micky and Peter are very gifted songwriters.
Mike has always said he prefers Micky to sing his songs.
Mike writes...Peter plays...Micky sings....er...if anyone is superfluous it has to be the other one dosn't it? Let's face it, what looks he had have gone and he never had anything else to offer.
If you wanna slag off Mike, dear...remember, he had the good sense to get out when the going was good!
From: john
HA!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL thats good Mark J.
From: Rocker
What's the general consensus on the this matchup of rock acts for the 1967 U.S. tour? I'd greatly appreciate commentary, whether you saw one of those shows or just heard about it like I did! Thanks.
From: john
I agree. It seems like this board has exploded with activity over the last month. Mst be the kick off of the summer tour!
From: Tammy
Lol, you should write back and tell him that he spelled Micky and Davy wrong. Gleeb, Tammy
From: Mandi
No, cause i like it too. Although, i think Mike could've done so much more with his idea. Maybe if he expanded it more, it would've been cooler.
later
Mandi
From: MonkEShyn
I remember why I have been a fan for 14 years! They did all the hits as well as time for each Monkee to do their solo time. I was in the lawn, but I had a great view! Loved the way they interacted with each other, as well as the backup band. Davy actually looked tan to me. Can't wait to see them in AC in better seats (5th row!) Monkee love forever
From: Leigh Angela
She must have meant August '65. I hope she doesn't actually have it dated '63, or plans to go up to the Monkees telling them that story! Ugh.
From: Mark J. Meli
I've always thought this was a weird combination. Both acts were "commercial" and sold plenty of records, but had a different fan appeal. It would kind of be like having the Backstreet Boys open up for a group like Phish!
From: Leigh Angela
August '66? Right before the show aired? 6 IS right above the 3 in the keypad.
From: Teresa in Texas
Apparently you are responding to an old post from way down the list that got attached to someone else's. I was NOT criticizing Mike Nesmith's talent in that post. "Enigma" means puzzle. His behavior in recent years toward the other 3 Monkees is most puzzling. He wants to do something with them (1996--97) and then abruptly leaves, telling them nothing. At other times, in some interviews, he talks about the years with the other 3 as fond memories, then other times says he really remembers nothing about that. That was what I was referring to--his puzzling behavior, and nothing else.
From: suzannetigger
yes probably because of the tour and maybe because the new format is easier to navigate. I'm thinking also that with Smash Mouth's rerelease of I'm a believer all over the radio now that there may be some renewed interest in the Monkees that way besides.
From: aspara
Nesmith had no right to trick the Monkees into coming to England just so he could dump them in a foreign country in 1997!
From: judy
I thought the same thing. Very weird! I'd like the answer to that one!
From:
Did anyone go to the Westbury shows in the spring? Where you allowed to take pictures? Because I emailed them and they said "picture taking is strictly prohibited" I think that's rediculous!
From: MONKEE fan
Isn't this a Monkees discussion board?
From: Rocker
I agree that it's a weird matchup but I'm not sure why. Both bands were very good at what they did. They're both basically guitar bands, so the differences aren't as much as Backstreet Boys and Phish in my opinion. I wish the people in the crowds would have opened their minds a little instead of booing Jimi off the stage. (I bet a lot of them later regretted doing that now that Hendrix is so respected as an artist.) I think it gives the Monkees bragging rights that a great talent like Jimi Hendrix opened for them.
From: Chris Coyle
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email ccoyle31@hotmail.com
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From: jamie
I was just thinkin about this today...Back in March, I went to the Jacksonville concert and some lady who sat in a row in front of me invited me to sit w/ her b/c some friends of hers couldn't make it. She was really nice and found out that she even graduated from my high school back in 91'. She even gave me $5 and her address to send my pictures of the concert to her after I got them developed. Well, I handed the address to my mom and she ended up losing it...I've felt so bad. Gave me money and let me sit w/her and I can't even remember her name. I know a lot of people from different places post here...so if anybody knows this lady, I'm sure she has told her friends how horrible I am for not getting in touch, I would be glad to hear from you...btw, she lives in the Jacksonville area.
From: Chris Coyle
Should read Chris Coyle 97 Beaver Dam Rd North Waterboro Me 04061 207-247-4503
From: jamie
I was just thinkin about this today...Back in March, I went to the Jacksonville concert and some lady who sat in a row in front of me invited me to sit w/ her b/c some friends of hers couldn't make it. She was really nice and found out that she even graduated from my high school back in 91'. She even gave me $5 and her address to send my pictures of the concert to her after I got them developed. Well, I handed the address to my mom and she ended up losing it...I've felt so bad. Gave me money and let me sit w/her and I can't even remember her name. I know a lot of people from different places post here...so if anybody knows this lady, I'm sure she has told her friends how horrible I am for not getting in touch, I would be glad to hear from you...btw, she lives in the Jacksonville area.
From: davyhitmefirst
Over the years, on this and many other boards, people have wondered how young women can find men the guys' age attractive. It strikes me that none of them are ever linked socially with women over 30, so why wouldn't it be OK for young women to be attracted to them? It appears there's a double standard at work there - older men finding younger women the only women who are attractive is correct, but young women finding older men attractive seems to be taboo.
I SWEAR I'm not bringing this up to be weird or argumentative - I really wanna know what people think!
Peace- DHMF
From: Stacey
Oh, if they were to really let ME choose the set list, I would first have to spend hours of wrapt contemplation on the matter. :)
I agree with Julianna that the first song should definitely be something inspiring, magical, and something that the band can just burst into while the guys appear on stage. I think "Listen to the Band" is a very ideal song for the opener.
I too liked the set list for the Albuquerque NM show although I wished I could have heard a few songs that they left out (Can You Dig IT, Look Out, Shades of Grey, Gettin In, Oh My My, etc...). I liked having songs like She Hangs Out and A Little Bit Me A Little Bit You towards the beginning, because they're great for getting the crowd energized- especially the way Davy gets down on She Hangs Out! OW!! :D
I think that the set should start it's closing with something that is guaranteed to make me cry like Anytime Anyplace Anywhere, and Daydream Believer. I also think they could try something like It's Not Too Late from Justus- that just seems like such a song of closure to me.
I'm sure I could write far more on the subject, but I think that gives a sufficient idea of what I'd like to hear-see in a concert! :)
Gleeb!
From: Mark T.
After the second season of the Monkees' TV show, the quartet was interested in doing a third season. However, they were not willing to do a another season in the same vein of the first two seasons.
During the second season, the individual Monkees began to highlight some of their favorite acts. Davy had Charlie Smalls on, Micky had Tim Buckley appear, Mike had Frank Zappa. Peter and Micky began to direct and Micky was writing scripts. The Monkees themselves wanted to change the format of the show to a variety show hour, where they would have guest artists perform solo or with the Monkees as a group or individually. Variety shows were big in the late '60s and into the '70s. I always wondered what would have happened if the 'powers that be' had accepted the Monkees' idea.
Obviously, Columbia rejected the idea for a variety Monkees hour, and thus, the whole show was just cancelled. The Monkees were still pulling in very decent numbers ratings wise, so if the guys had agreed to go ahead for a third season with the same old format, it would have happened.
From: Stacey
Well, I can DEFINITELY see what must have been going through Micky's head when he and Peter first saw Jimi at Monterey Pop. Like Peter said, "Micky got it. I didn't get it..." but he did later apparently :).
Anyways, I think that maybe it was a good idea at first. I mean, they probably thought that maybe it would give Jimi some good exposure to open for them. But they definitely should have thought about the audience. Similar to what Mark J Meli said, you don't have Kid Rock open for Britney Spears or 98 degrees. It's a totally dif audience. I mean, at that time, the majority of the Monkees' fans were 12 year old girls who were madly in love with Davy. And Jimi didn't exactly appeal to most of those girls.
All in all I think that it was just a good intention that didn't quite have all it's aspects thought through.
From: jamie
Thanx for the link, Mark. I was wondering, do you go to a lot of the concerts? I was also wondering How you got backstage. Those trumpet players are really nice guys. I really like Greg.
From: Stacey
I don't think that Mike actually "tricked" the guys into coming to England with the pure intent of dumping them off shortly thereafter. I think it was more likely a case of Mike just got sick of touring, or maybe some things were not working out very well, so Nez left. And perhaps he disappeared without telling the guys because he didn't want to put up with them trying to convince him to stay, ya know? I dunno, this is kinda just my own hypothesis on that whole thing.
From: jamie
Thanx for the link, Mark. I was wondering, do you go to a lot of the concerts? I was also wondering How you got backstage. Those trumpet players are really nice guys. I really like Greg.
From: Stacey
OK, well if I have any advice for you , it would be this....
TAKE YOUR CAMERA!! You may regret it one day if you don't. Some security is tighter than others, but I'm sure you can find some way to sneak a camera in. :)
From: Dan Lafferty
Well, I'm a 23-year-old guy and have always been attracted to older women ('30s and '40s I guess), so I see nothing odd about girls finding older guys attractive. My best friend is almost 26 and she is very into and attracted to older musicians.
From: Steffie
I was at the Westbury show and there were signs all over saying no cameras or camcorders. Once the show started the flashes from the cameras snapped like crazy. They did not stop anyone from taking photos. But DO NOT BRING a camcorder that they will take away from you. There is a lot of security there always watching everyone like a hawk.
From: Mark T.
Hey Jamie, to answer your question---yes, I've been to a fair amount of Monkees concerts!
1986: Veteran's Stadium, Valley Forge Music Center, Mann Music Center (all in Philadelphia, PA) plus the '86 Philly Convention
1987: Mann Music Center, Garden State Arts Center in NJ (which is now the PNC Center)
1989: Valley Forge Music Center, Garden State Arts Center
1996: Valley Forge Music Center, Hershey Park Stadium in PA
1997: Mann Music Center
2001: Riverfront Concert Hall in DE
I was front row at the 2001 show, and also was backstage. So as not to cause this person to be bombarded with requests, let's say that I met the right (really cool and nice) person at the right time and was able to (thankfully) obtain a backstage pass. After 15 years, it was a very nice treat.
From: Rocker
You are right about that. The audience didn't seem to dig the music Jimi laid on them. I was happy to read that Jimi Hendrix and Mike Nesmeth were friends up until Jimi's death in 1970.
From: Rocker
The Monkees movie Head is one of the greatest rock movies ever made in my opinion. I enjoy it more than the movies from the Beatles, Frank Zappa, Kiss, the Who, etc. It's innovative and funny and never gets boring. I rented Frank Zappa's 200 Motels hoping for something like Head but it wasn't nearly as good. When it comes to putting visuals to music, the Monkees are the best. Anyone else care to weigh in on Head or other rock movies?
From: Coconut
Hey Everbody! Just FYI, David Fishof is a promoter. He books sporting events and concerts. Were it not for his booking these vinues, we would all still be sitting at home right now, wondering if The Monkees will ever do a concert together again? This is his job, though it may fall short of what we true fans wish for, none the less, it is what we have to go with so I'm greatful for whatever contribution he has made. @:)Mickey, #:) Peter, <]:( Mike, };)Davy
From: jamie
Has anybody else had trouble today with the email that monkees.net offers? For some reason it won't let me into my email account or even on the page itself. I don't know if their site is just down right now or if my computer is acting up.
From: davyhitmefirst
Date: Sat.,Aug. 18 Time: 9PM Tix: Sun, July 15, 10AM, Ticketmaster
I know I said I was gone for good, but I had to share the news of the realization of my ultimate dream venue for a Monkees concert! This is the pinnacle - everybody who was anybody in SF played the Fillmore - it's the place all the "legitimate" bands played (and still do).
Recognition at last!
Peace- DHMF
From: jamie
Has anybody else had trouble today with the email that monkees.net offers? For some reason it won't let me into my email account or even on the page itself. I don't know if their site is just down right now or if my computer is acting up.
From: Rocker
My spelling is atroshus.
From: Steph
So Dan's got the other spectrum covered - so here's my input.. ok, I've been asked this from other people before too. I'm 22 and yes I think Peter is still a stud. I've always been attracted to older guys, my last boyfriend was 11 yrs older than me. In "real life" though - I wouldn't seriously date anyone that much older than me (unless it actually was Peter...) I think it's always been more acceptable for men to go after younger women than women to go after older men (Anna Nicole Smith anyone?) It's that age old double standard I guess.
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From: Leigh Angela
A LOT goes into this...you could argue these girls are "looking for a father" that they never had, or maybe they are mature (and most guys are quite immature, you must admit), or maybe they are self-conscious and get an ego trip if someone who is on stage and has ALL eyes on him picks her out of a crowd. Then there are girls who will go for ANY musician or actor or artist regardless of his age. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, if she connects with the artists work and is intrigued by the energy that he omits or creates and she wishes to learn more about him, that's natural...and THEN there are groupies, or girls who don't know any other way to get attention from someone they admire, which is a WHOLE other story which I don't think should be discussed here.
I myself have always gone for older men because for the main reason, I have never been drunk or done drugs, and guys my age (20s) are pretty much only into that and sports and Matchbox 20, and I have nothing in common with them. I haven't liked "modern" or "hit" music since about Jr. High, the time I started dating, so I always got along better with older guys who weren't so concerned with what's "in."
I have a great dad, so I'm not looking for another one...I do tend to go for guys who LOOK like my dad though, because I think he's handsome--my mom made a good choice :-) I was always daddy's girl, and I feel safe with big masculine men...
I do firmly believe that men look better as they age. Their faces take on so much character. It struck me when I saw Natural, while they are what is considered "attractive" and "sexy," they looked boring to me. No character, a little naive, innexperienced...don't get me wrong I'm not saying they ARE these things, I'm just saying that's how they appear to me in comparison with the type of men I usually am attracted to, and I doubt any of them would be able to keep me interested in a conversation about anything other than music.
Many many people find it disgusting when a man dates a woman young enough to be his daughter. I disagree, I don't think it's more accepted...if it is, it is only in the disgusting high-five group of guy friends way. I've heard the comments in public...it's more often 'what is he doing with a girl half his age' as if he's taking advantage of her. Many times he is, but that's not for anyone to judge without knowing the whole story. Besides, everyone uses everyone: for love, for sex, for laughs, for companionship, everyone is looking for SOMETHING.
Many many men feel about women the same way I do about men: that age gives them a certain confidence, character and sexiness that only time can provide. Other men find younger women refreshing. And as long as she's intelligent, intriguing as well.
When it comes down to it, age has nothing to do with anything (to a point, now: I find it hard to believe Anna Nicole ACTUALLY found that man sexy. There's a line somewhere in between Sean Connery and George Burns) and I think people should mind their own business. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. Men have taken advantage of women their own age. Women have taken advantage of men their own age. Men have had successful relationships with women older, younger, what have you. What works works.
I'm 25 and I spent the last 4 years of my life with the most loving, wonderful man I've ever met. We had fun, we laughed, we cried. Knowing him has made me a better person, and knowing me made him feel happy and sexy. The same thing can happen in any relationship, age has nothing to do with anything.
Most men agree with me that Sean Connery is sexy. It's his attitude as well as his good looks. Many men find women as old attractive, too. However, usually they are women who dye their hair and have surgery to try to keep looking young. I find this sad, but it's the way it is. Men can look sexy with grey hair. Men can look sexy bald. Men can look sexy without any plastic surgery. I think it has a lot to do with society...sexy men are portrayed as powerful while sexy women are portrayed as young or at least not old looking. I think many times you notice a man's character before you notice his appeal...you are attracted to the person and then you realize "and hey, he has great eyes!" I think Jack Nicholson is sexy and attractive, but this is only because of his persona. If he wasn't famous and I saw him walking down the street, I wouldn't think he is bad looking, but I would have to get to know him before I would consider him "sexy." And he'd have to wear a suit and tie, not sweats :-) As I said, a LOT goes into this :-)
From: coconut
Where is everyone getting the California concert information? I usally check it here but it has'nt been updated since june. I want to see the in L.A. or Las Vegas. But where do I get the 411?
From: lorijorgy
I have a full set of Monkees trading cards, and would like to know where to go to sell them. Any ideas?
From: Deidre
Tickets on sale Saturday and Sunday!
There is a new Monkees date for August 18 - The Filmore, San Francisco, CA
(show starts at 9pm)
The Filmore tickets go on sale, Sunday, July 15, at 10 AM, probably PDT.
{from the Orange Co. Register, the local newspaper}:
At the Sun Theater in Anaheim: The Monkees, August 24th, $50, on sale at 10AM Monday. (This is a dinner theatre according to what was posted.)
(show starts at 8pm)
Ticketmaster has these tickets going on sale on Saturday at 10 AM -- it doesn't indicate if that is PDT, but I suspect it is.
(copied from AMM)
(to coconut--look at ticketmaster.com and pollstar.com for updated concert listing and ticket sales)
From: Estrella
Sally Jesse Raphael anyone? Just kidding. In some places there is no double standard; it's taboo for the older man to think of going out or marrying someone who is extremely their junior, especially if the female is still in her teens.
But in the cases where it's okay for the older guy to seek out younger women goes back a few centuries where courtship was formal. The women had practically no say in the matter on deciding whether to marry an older man or any man. I may be off a bit, but that's the impression I get from reading old, old novels.
From:
On August 18 the Monkees will be at Filmore, in San Francisco. So far I see 3 dates posted for California. They are not on the Monkees tour site so Fishof should get off of his big behind and post them.
From: Estrella
ebay.com or if you're in a daring mood, possibly just post once to Monkee discussion groups that allow such postings. Be sure to give an accurate description on the condition and of those cards in general. Good luck! :)
From: koala
I remember reading an online chat transcript from a couple years ago with micky's girls talking about touring with him when they were in and around the ny area. Anyone seen the girls hanging out lately? Thats so cool that our monkees such great dads. By the way, Im at a loss.....where did the topic of age differences in dating originate? I cant find but two posts on it.
From: Mark T.
I believe both Micky and Mike have counted HEAD as one of the projects they value the most throughout the Monkees experience.
I like HEAD alot. I first saw it in 1987 on Cinemax, and I was totally baffled after watching it. At first, all I could enjoy was the opening and closing scenes, the "As We Go Along" scene and the live "Circle Sky" sequence. OH, can't forget Micky blowing the Coke machine up.
Anyway, the more and more I watched it, the more I picked up the subtle, underlying content and inside jokes that were such a big part of the movie. It wasn't until I really learned the ins and outs of Monkee business that I could understand HEAD. Unfortunately, it's hard for me to see how someone not familiar with the whole story behind the Monkees can understand HEAD. Does anyone else believe this to be true?
HEAD is really the Monkees (and Rafelson and Schneider) bursting the bubble on the whole project and in essence, killing the group along the way, as Peter is so often known to bring up.
For my money's worth, I can watch this movie more than HELP! or any other rock movie. Since I don't watch rock movies hardly ever, I'd still pick HEAD over HELP!. It's hard to beat A HARD DAY'S NIGHT simply because that movie captured a moment in time that will probably never be repeated. However, HEAD stands up well today and it's great to watch such an interesting piece of late '60s cinema. Thankfully it has also undergone a critical rehab and is now considered to be a cult classic.
Check out places like the American Movie Classics channel....they have broadcasted it before, most recently this past summer and winter, I believe.
From: Kestra
Greetings,
I am just wondering if anyone who has tickets to the Pines/Calvin concert, is sitting in the aproximatly same spot. It appears that I have been moved back one row. At the Pines, I had reserved seating in row 4, now that it is at the Calvin I am in row E<which alphabetically is fifth> I talked with a friend, and her tickets are the same at both venues. I am planning on calling tomorrow<Sat> and asking but I was just curious.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
From: suzannetigger
Personally, I think an hour long variety show may have down well. As the initial teeny bobber audience was growing older also the whole feeling for that time was becoming more serious with the war protests and such. Look at how well other major recording stars and groups did with variety shows at that time. Sonny and Cher, Donny and Marie for example. It may have helped the Monkees "blend" more with the pop culture and they could have been better accepted as more serious artists, especially to be seen on T.V. grouped with other groups of the times such as the Mama's and the Papa's and Jefferson Airplane. I think the critics might have settled down and started really listening to their talent instead of constantly knocking them down. Because if one really listens to their later albums such as PAC&J and Head, not to mention Headquarters, there is some real genious behind the music not to mention some extraordinary talent, and that you just can't fake.
From: Laura
You know, there are a lot of Monkees fans who are under the age of 18. I personally find that cool. I am 16 and have been a fan ever since I was a baby. Most of the teens on my Yahoo messenger list are Monkees fans.
From: **Ashley**
I love Head... the movie! Geez what a lovely title for the people who don't know why it's called that. I kept telling people "I'm getting HEAD for Christmas!!" and they just gave me weird looks... ANYWAY!! I think it's hilarious... especially the look Mike has when Lord High n Low busts in on his bday party (the crazy guy that looks [to my friend] like Abraham Lincoln is Lord HnL right?) I like how it was totally different from the show... it shows who they really are I guess you could say. I still think Jack Nickelson (sp? It doesn't look right) is a VERY creepy man.
Peace n Gleeb
From: Andy
Hi everybody! We just released our debut CD "Joe's Ocean" and we couldn't be happier with the response (thanks Susie!) We all LOVE the Monkees and are proud that their influence was shinin through on the CD. Go to http://members.home.net/joesocean/ to hear a few songs off the CD. Download mp3 (for free) and then enjoy the tunes. MONKEES FOREVER! with Love -Andy
From: **Ashley**
I've never been attracted to older men til the Monkees... not only do I think they look good (did then, do now) but Paul McCartney too! I think it's alright to be attracted to them... what girl isn't?!
Peace n Gleeb
From: kimbalna@hotmail.com
Can someone please email me Sam's email address??? I need to get in touch with him, and I have misplaced it!!!
Thanks, K
From: suzannetigger
I too really liked Head, although I had to watch it a few times to get past the Kiddie image I had of them to appreciate it. But I can't say it's my fav rock movie, Sorry fellow Monkee fans, but I cannot tell a lie. That Honor goes to The Who's Tommy. When I saw it at age 14 on the big screen I was hooked and I have taped it from T.V. and still periodically watch it. That was the Greatest Rock movie ever made IMHO
From: kimbalna@hotmail.com
Can someone please email me Sam's address??? I have misplaced my copy!!
Thanks, K
From: Dan Lafferty
I hear what you're saying, Steph. I went out with an older woman for a short while and loved it, and I liked her a lot....but it just doesn't work. In the long run it's gonna cause complications if it gets serious though. *sigh*
From: kimbalna@hotmail.com
Can someone please email me Sam's email address??? I have misplaced my copy!!
Thanks, K
From: Ree
AMC did show Head this past Winter. It was the first time I saw the whole movie. It will probably take a few more times seeing to fully understand it.
From: kimbalna@hotmail.com
Can someone please email me Sam's email address??? I have misplaced my copy!!
Thanks, K
From: suzannetigger
your not at the lowest your the tops IMO. I love the Scottish Pipe Bands. Nobody knows how tough it is to march in a parade, carring a heavy instrument, staying in step, and having all your music memorized and not pass out or collapse. I also playe a bass horn in Drum Corps called the Contra Bass which was another heavy instrument. People can call us geeks if they want but we know what stamina it takes to do it!
From: Leah
Yeah! You guys definitely have that "Monkee" sound. Fantastic songs! Micky and Peter would be proud! -Leah
From: suzannetigger
your not at the lowest your the tops IMO. I love the Scottish Pipe Bands. Nobody knows how tough it is to march in a parade, carring a heavy instrument, staying in step, and having all your music memorized and not pass out or collapse. I also playe a bass horn in Drum Corps called the Contra Bass which was another heavy instrument. People can call us geeks if they want but we know what stamina it takes to do it!
From: Coconut
Thanks Estrella! I'm so on it now!!
From: suzannetigger
your not at the lowest your the tops IMO. I love the Scottish Pipe Bands. Nobody knows how tough it is to march in a parade, carring a heavy instrument, staying in step, and having all your music memorized and not pass out or collapse. I also playe a bass horn in Drum Corps called the Contra Bass which was another heavy instrument. People can call us geeks if they want but we know what stamina it takes to do it!
From: Jan
I have to agree that "Tommy" is also my favorite. Next in line is "Jesus Christ Superstar" I've had the cassette to that since the show first came out, although I like the Broadway version (musically) better than the movie version. A year or so ago, Ted Neeley reprised the role and they toured again and came here. I went 3 times!!! I do think he's a little bit "too into his role" though...LOL. He hugs everyone in the classic "Jesus" fashion. I almost started thinking I might be healed or something the third time!
But it was good. I have the movie Tommy and the soundtrack as well. Roger Daltry is something else. I must have a thing for short men! :-) Jan
From: ~Sara*
Um ok so older mens, they got wrinkly balls, straight up. Im not down wit da old mens although i know someone who sho is, but thats her bag of jazz so yea ima let her do her thang but im not down. unless they cute but still. wrinkly balls. come on now.
From: Jan
According to Desmond Morris, the male human is genetically attracted to the female who most represents fertile, high estrogen mating possibilities. That leaves us older ones out. He also says that females are attracted to males that are the best providers, ie, money and age in favor of youth. He then added that after the provider thing is found for the young female, she may also turn to the younger, more sexual male for "fun", as long as her meal-ticket isn't threatened.
I did think that was rather humorous...:-)
I guess us middle aged women don't count in any of that.... Jan
From: suzannetigger
I read a post below about liquid paper and with the computer age it's maybe going to become obsolete so I just wondered who on this board actually does still use liquid apaper ( or white out)? I still use it occasionally at work because we are in the dark ages there and I still have to do alot of my work handwritten. So I go through a bottle a month at my place.
From: Jan
Davy IS tan! And what you saw was refreshed considerably in Myrtle Beach. They got here the day before the show, and he spent a bit of time on the beach. He was as red as a pickled beet the night of the show.
When he was here with the Teen Idols, he got burnt up. The man likes his sunshine!
Jan
From: **Ashley**
I still use liquid paper occasionally... to test it just to make sure it hasn't dried out sitting in the junk drawer... sorry Mike!... and to um... ::sniff sniff:: Hehe sorry but it smells good!
Peace n Gleeb
From: Jan
My, how we all have our own opinions. I would personally rather hear David sing all day before Micky. I think Micky does fine on the songs that were picked out for him by the PTB back then, but he can't do the "pretty little ditties" like David. I think Peter is by far the most talented instrument wise, and though Mike's voice was good back then, the stuff I heard on Changes was ghastly....most of it, anyway. There are a few exceptions.
But of all the Monkees, Mike aged the worst. As far as I'm concerned, and every other person I know who's seen David up close, he's amazingly handsome...STILL.
Everyone has their own opinions.....
Jan
From: Leigh Angela
I use it a lot at both jobs. We still use typewriters too, it's easier to type one label for an envelope than to run the label software in the computer and wait for one label to print.
From: Estrella
I'm starting to see a trend that new people are responding to what's being written on the bottom of the posts. Don't do that!! This board has a major bug which causes really old posts to show up on the bottom (while having the old subject headers first). The paragraph stuff you should be responding to is on top, while the first subject header should be ignored. Part of the bug is that old subject headers are the only one seen when hitting reply. For example on Deidre's post:
>>Re: The Age Thing :::IGNORE ANTHING RELATED TO THIS:::
>>two new CAL dates at Ticketmaster :::RESPOND TO THIS:::
Also the true credit of the post should go to the *first* From:, the second From: should be ignored. This will cause less confusion, and allow the original poster to get the response he or she was originally looking for. Thank you. :)
From: Tyme
I have always, always been attracted to older guys. When, I was 15 years old I wanted to date 19 or 20 year olds and wouldn't settle for anything else. The older I get, the older the guys I'm attracted to get. In fact, the one time I dated a younger guy it ended up being a bad experience and I finally realized that was part of my main attarction to older men.
I am one of the many that find older actors like Sean Connery, Richard Geare and Peter Tork still very attractive (just to name a few) and on that note, I think I'll break them down...
Sean Connery is one of those completly to die for men. In his old age he's become distinguished (i think that's spelled wrong) and there is a sort of mystery to him, and come on ladies, that accent....ooo, I get goose bumps :)
Richard Geare looked older even when he was young, (Officer and a Gentlemen). He comes off as suave and sophisticated and he still has a nice body. He's one of those physically attractive older men.
and as for Peter Tork well...there's not enough room in this post to talk about all the reasons that I find him attractive....
From: Stacey
Oh how sad! Poor burnt Dave :).
Yah, I don't really like Davy to be all tan. It kinda creeps me out... I've seen some pictures of him when he was entirely too tan and I really REALLY didn't like the way he looked!! :(
But that's just my personal opinion. If Davy really likes the sun that much, more power to him I guess :)
From: davyhitmefirst
I guess my real question is: Why do celebrity men over 40 only seem interested in women half their ages?
Peace- DHMF
From: MonkEShyn
I went to the Atlantic City concert St Patty's Day. I snuck in my camera. They said no, but 2 rows over a woman had a more powerful camera, and behind me someone had a video camera! I took 2 rolls in 45 minutes! But, I have great memories from it. I would say go for it!
From: jamie
Head is definitely my fav rock movie. The first time I saw it, I really didn't like it, but it did grow on me after a while. I love the line "I'm the dummy, I'm always the dummy". I also love the scene where they play As We Go Along. I think they should take that clip and make it into a music video. For some odd reason, the part where they get sucked into a vacuum and Mike picks up that giant cigarette, smells it, then kind of laughs and says "Not one of your standard brands" cracks me up. There is so much about the movie that I just love.
From: MonkEShyn
Hi all. Went to PNC Center show and bought a lot of stuff(maybe too much...) Anyway, looking over the tour program, Micky wrote something, but not in English-it looks like martian writing! WHAT DOES IT SAY??? How can I descipher what he is saing? I think he may be having a flashback...
From: Ree
Do you have any idea where your seats are yet? I bet with the promo's the guys are getting from the Early Show, Regis, Shrek, and word of mouth, I bet there will be a good crowd. It's about time they get some publicity!
Been having the Monkee's theme song running through my head, especially the part "Any time or any where, just look over your shoulder, we will be standing there. . . Hey Hey. Maybe I'm trying to psych myself into going again. But I know it can't happen at this time.
I just went back to work from having vacation this past week and I'm already thinking of vacation again, which is scheduled for the week of 4th of July. What a coincidence that Knoxville is July 6! HA! Maybe my friends, relatives and neighbors will take a collection up to send Ree to Knoxville.
From: MonkEShyn
Hi all. Went to PNC Bank Center this Thursday. Bought the tour program, (and almost everything else!) and looking through it, I saw Micky's page to be all unreadable! It looks like Micky was having a '60s flashback! WHAT DOES IT SAY??? I can't understand it! Help!
From: suzannetigger
because they know they can get them with their fame fortune and money?
From:
does anyone know when sarasota tickes go on sale?
thanks
From: suzannetigger
so I guess I can pretty much assume then from the responses that the backgrounds Ahhh's were Peter and Mike's vocals? I wondered because of the pitch it didn't really sound like either of them
From:
Micky wrote his message in a cryptogram; here's what it says:
Hi!
Congratulations! If you are reading this then you have broken the code. Now that wasn't too hard was it? Did you work it out letter by letter or figure out that it is based on a standard computer keyboard?
First of all, thanks for coming to the show. I hope you enjoyed it. Even after all this time I still get a kick out of singing and playing these great tunes. If you've been a fan of the Monkees in the past I hope we lived up to your expectations. If you are a new recruit then I hope you enjoyed listening as much as we enjoyed playing.
Please join us next time around, until then, peace and love.
Micky
If you get the chance, check out my website, mickydolenz.com
--You could figure out the message by going one to the left of the letter on a computer keyboard, but it was actually pretty easy to figure letter by letter too. Hope that helped.
From: Leigh Angela
Same reason any guy likes younger girls...makes them feel sexy, makes them feel like a stud, or maybe they aren't looking for a relationship and feel safer going for someone younger, or maybe like I said earlier, they find them refreshing. Some guys think that older women=more cynicism. Or maybe they are intimidated by an older women and only have the confidence to go after what appears to be a naive young girl.
Bottom line it's probably looks. If I were a lesbian I'd rather be with a 25 year old than a 40 year old.
That said, it's not to say that all this shallowness can't turn into something real. Lots of relationships beging with nothing more than physical attraction.
From: Deborah in Clearwater
Tickets have been on sale since May just call the Van Wenzel Performing Arts Center that is where it will be at.
From: Mark T.
Sue, the recording session log detailed in MUSIC BOX has Davy doing the lead vocal and playing tambourine, Micky playing drums and doing the harmony vocals with Davy, Peter on keys and Mike on acoustic guitar (as well as Chip Douglas on bass and a man playing cello). My guess is that Micky's harmonies are double-tracked with Davy's lead, and the background vocals you are hearing are probably a combo of both David and Micky.
From: Faux Flop?
Omg, honestly. You guys are pretty slow. If we actually expected you to BELIEVE it, we'd not have a picture of ourselves on our aol profile pages. 9836, you act like you've discovered some great conspiracy. Have you never heard of RP? EVERYONE knows its a role playing game, ask anyone from the Chatter where you discovered us. Because they play too. We thought you knew, or at least teh fact that we used actions like ::smirks:: and ::chases him:: would have given it away. What 50 year old man does that? Well have fun in your little "I discovered a fink!" plot, I think its pretty funny. Its nice to know we're so popular ::grins:: Talk to you later!
~The Faux Avenger
From: Mark T.
Sue, WELL SAID!!!!
I'll 'amen' your statements.
From: SheLovesTork
I was at the Westbury show too, and brought my camera in unhidden, right around my neck. No one stopped me at all.
From: Steph
I echo your *sigh*. It was a long long long strange trip.
From: Nicole
OK, no one call me dumb, but here goes. This dude told me the Monkees sang the theme to "Scooby Doo." Well, I wasn't sure, and I've looked all over and can't find anything about it. I've listened a few times, and it does sound like Davy during one season and Mike during another. Just wondering if anyone knew.
~~~Nicole~~~ p.s. I had a driving lesson and my teacher looked exactly like Peter!
From: davyhitmefirst
I just got an innaresting response from a friend on another board. She said it's a compensating thing - to compensate for feeling they're getting older, men get young women to make them feel younger. *sigh* .
Peace- DHMF
From: Stacey
Hmm, well I must admit I've never heard that rumor. So I guess I have no real way of KNOWING what I'm about to say, but... No, I really really don't think it's them. It doesn't sound a bit like them to me, and I usually have a suitable enough ear for that type of thing (at least I hope so!).
PS- Tell your driving instructor to give me a call sometime! lol ;)
Peace
From: Leigh Angela
Kinda what I was saying...makes them feel sexy or stud like...sometimes insecurity causes them to want a "trophy" girlfriend. The hotter or younger, the more stud-like they look to their friends. Like I said, a LOT goes into this :-)
From:
What about any Hatch reviews? I got the feeling that show was important to them.
From: brad@monkees.net
The lady saw a show by Peter Torkelson and band and I guess assumed it was the Monkees she had seen.
brad
From: Aquarian Believe
Picture taking at the Westbury concert was "prohibited". However, many fans partook of the picture taking anyway. How can you resist not taking a picture? It's irresistable.
From: Estrella
I mainly use LP to correct when I address envelopes by hand, and also when correcting applications. A few years ago, Liquid Paper was used to correct hand written pen assignments in high school English class that had to be turned in by the end of the period.
From: Mark J. Meli
The only Monkees/Scooby Doo rumor I ever heard was that Micky did the voice for Scooby...which he didn't...although Davy guested as himself on an episode.
As for the theme song, if it's the one I remember from 1968-1972, I think it was probably done in kind of a Kirshner-era Monkees style and that might have been on purpose...who knows?
From: brad@monkees.net
Micky made a joke about liquid paper when the Mike subject came up, but at this point, Mike has no conenction to Liquid Paper, as the royalties from the Gillette company ended in 1996.
From: Mark J. Meli
The only Monkees/Scooby Doo rumor I ever heard was that Micky did the voice for Scooby...which he didn't...although Davy guested as himself on an episode.
As for the theme song, if it's the one I remember from 1968-1972, I think it was probably done in kind of a Kirshner-era Monkees style and that might have been on purpose...who knows?
From: davyhitmefirst
Headquarters, followed closely by Justus.
Peace- DHMF
From: Mark J. Meli
The only Monkees/Scooby Doo rumor I ever heard was that Micky did the voice for Scooby...which he didn't...although Davy guested as himself on an episode.
As for the theme song, if it's the one I remember from 1968-1972, I think it was probably done in kind of a Kirshner-era Monkees style and that might have been on purpose...who knows?
From: Mandi
I still use it whenever i write in pen and make a mistake.
But instead of using the original bottles or even the pens, i've updated to the applicators (i don't know what they're called)
They're a lot easier to work with
later
Mandi
From: Mary Mary
Make no mistake...I LOVE THIS FORUM...but I can waste a lunch time waiting for the screen to change or the correct information to show up. I hate the "split screen" and I can't get rid of it. If I started a new web forum, would any of you kind folks join me??? This wouldn't be for any kind of competition...just navigational ease. If I'm going to mess off at work reading about my favorite group...it has to be alot quicker than this!
From: just-ice
i was watching the early show bit over again today and noticed something new. when the stupid blond chick (i don't know her name) says that she forgot her guitar, the other guy mumbles "that never stopped them." i was shocked. the only time i've ever seen hosts be meaner about their guests was the time john cusack went on the view to promote high fidelity and the one chick was talking about how greasy he looked, like he criscoed his hair!
anyway, that just pissed me off and i had to tell everyone...
From: vixen
No, they didn't. However, Davy did "appear" and sing in a episode ("I Can Make You Happy") and Micky appears, I'm not sure if he sung or not? I'm not a big Micky fan, so I don't know for sure :-)
From: Estrella
I thought it was kind of even between "Head" and other rock movies as far as the songs go, especially comparing "Head" with "Hard Day's Night"; the music was good, just the visual stuff associated with the songs just doesn't seem colossal.
What was really catchy, after the first ten viewings, is all the possible underlying statements that Rafelson and Nicholson were making about The Monkees and Hollywood. With a lot of other rock band films, there's an obvious, banal straight plot, but with "Head"'s plot it's so atypical that there is a search for other meanings.
"Head" is not the kind of film one would want to use to "convert" people to Monkeedom. It's more like a supplement after the person has gotten a chance to know some Monkee history, and watched a bit of the tv episodes.
From: Mooney
I LOVE THIS FORUM...BUT....it's taking me forever to change screens, and I could waste a whole lunch hour just waiting for the forum to show the correct info. Should I start a new one? Not to be a jerk, but for others like me who, if they have to goof off reading about their favorite group...they can do it quicker. Anybody with me?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
WOW! I have been trying to get the full set of cards for a long time now. If you put them on Ebay, you can bet I will try to get them!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Mooney
I LOVE THIS FORUM...BUT....it's taking me forever to change screens, and I could waste a whole lunch hour just waiting for the forum to show the correct info. Should I start a new one? Not to be a jerk, but for others like me who, if they have to goof off reading about their favorite group...they can do it quicker. Anybody with me?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I also truly enjoy Head. I have had the video for a few years and had never sat and watched the entire thing until last year. Since then I have seen it many, many times and can truly enjoy it. It IS one that takes a few viewings to understand it. My fave!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Mooney
Comments I LOVE THIS FORUM...BUT....it's taking me forever to change screens, and I could waste a whole lunch hour just waiting for the forum to show the correct info. Should I start a new one? Not to be a jerk, but for others like me who, if they have to goof off reading about their favorite group...they can do it quicker. Anybody with me?
From: Christi
I have to admit, I have been visiting this board since day one but never really posted. I have since posted here and there and enjoy doing so. Now with the tour and shows there are more things to discuss and it is so much easier posting all the time. (I know, I prolly post too much at certain times but oh well. I love the monkees!)
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork sticks Christi
From:
Does anyone know who to contact(at RHINO through email)to use the Monkees' logo on my Monkees Fan Site? THANKS
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
WOW! I never thought about that. Now that you help me put 2 and 2 together, it makes you wonder if he was really referring to the fact that they don't need him anymore. Good thought.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From:
Does anyone know who to contact(at Rhino through email) to use the Monkees' logo on my site?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I liked it. I didn't LOVE it but I liked it.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: just-ice
hmmm. i haven't heard anything about that one. but there is an episode with davy on it. there is a cd called scooby snack tracks that has the song davy sings on it. maybe that's what they meant.
From: Chris Coyle
My top 3 rock movies
A Hard Days Night
Head
This is Spinal Tap
Chris
From: hmmmmmm
so I see a listing for a raleigh nc show, but on pollstar.com its not there? Was it canceled? anyone know why its not on there?
From: Monkeescott
Hi again Ree. I think our seats are in the "P" section. My son tells me that the way the theater is set up, that there are no bad seats. Come on down to Knoxville, after all it is vacation!!!!!!Scott
From: Umm?
so I see a listing for a raleigh nc show, but on pollstar.com its not there? Was it canceled? anyone know why its not on there?
From: cory
Mark,
Any word yet on where those not fortunate enough to see them this summer can order it from? (My show was cancelled!) I need to own the "Porpoise Song"/"Listen To The Band" medley!
From: Estrella
I'm not sure if Micky brings any of his kids now, he used to; I heard one of Davy's kids is brought along. The Age Thing Topic originated a month ago, it's about mid-way down on the list of topics page.
From: Teresa in Texas
I've often thought about this, too, and wondered if the Monkees' variety show would have been like the Smothers Brothers show, or more like Laugh-In, both of which were on in the same era as the original Monkees show. I think it would have been a blend of the two--zany, silly comic stuff, mixed with music. I liked the Smothers Brothers show, not for them, but because they had EVERYONE on that was popular in the '60s and they let those musical talents do their own thing, rather than script something stupid for them to do. That was the "Ed Sullivan" part of their show.
From: Julianna Michelle
Hey Nicole, Yeah, I've heard that rumor but it's not true! Well, just read the credits, they don't mention the Monkees at all. It's just one of those pop-urban myths, you know. Like Elvis is alive and well and working at a laundramat in Ohio, or Paul is dead, just on a smaller scale.
PS: Was your driving instructor intelligent and cordial and all that? You should tell him he looks like Peter, see what he says!
God is love! Amanda
From: cory
Estrella,
I ALWAYS use "HEAD" to convert people to Monkeedom! It's so Out There & strange that I can get all sorts of hipsters, hippies, pot-smokers, and film-buffs hooked by showing The Monkees' "alternative" side!
As far as comparing it to other rock movies, I think it's simply the best. I know this is sacrilage, but I found "Hard Day's Night" dull. The music's great, of course, but I found it slow going & thought The Beatles, as characters, were kindof jerks. Of course, I'm all alone on that opinion (perhaps I was tired when I watched it in film class).
Regarding other rock movies: My opinion varies depending on my feelings toward the artist (ex: "Tommy" does nothing for me, "Purple Rain" does), but none seem to give as much to chew on as "HEAD" & offers as many rewards on repeat viewings.
One more thought: alot of people on this board refer to "HEAD" as "funny" and, I just want to go on record as saying I don't think it is. What I respond to is it's darkness & even it's sadness (as well as what The L.A. Times referred to as its "fierce visual energy").
From: Julianna Michelle
Hey Nicole, Yeah, I've heard that rumor but it's not true! Well, just read the credits, they don't mention the Monkees at all. It's just one of those pop-urban myths, you know. Like Elvis is alive and well and working at a laundramat in Ohio, or Paul is dead, just on a smaller scale.
PS: Was your driving instructor intelligent and cordial and all that? You should tell him he looks like Peter, see what he says!
God is love! Amanda
From: cory
"Hits Just..." is not my favorite (very acoustic/two-man-bandish) BUT, if you like it & want to experiment further, I recommend "Complete" (his first 3 albums on 2 CD's - "Magnetic South" is the best of the three & i feel it's his best solo material: psychadelic county-rock) for the more country side of Nez & "Infinite Rider On The Big Dogma" (lots of "Elephant Parts" material) for the poppier side.
From: Vixen
They didn't sing the theme, but Davy and Micky both "appeared". Davy sang "I Can Make you Happy" in one eppy. I'm not sure about Micky singing?
From: Jennie
Aren't we talking about the MONKEES in comparison to the Bee Gees?
From: pops
Just wondering b/c it doesnt seem to be listed anywhere but the monkees site.
From: Teresa in Texas
In fact, I just used Liquid Paper yesterday to correct a mistake I made when writing up the PTA minutes from the May meeting (so I'm a little behind). I much prefer the little pens that correct writing errors. The brushes leave a big streak that's hard to write over.
From: BNL Fanatic
LOL...Trust me, that's not them.
From: ~Stayzia~
I'll be right there bidding on them too is you put them on eBay... I've been dying to have a set!
From: Tyme
Ok, so this is...a little silly. But I don't care! I'm all for silly right now!
At the Boston concert I attended (Yey MonkeeStock!) I held proudly too signs stating my love for Peter Tork, and my approval of MonkeeStock. In the corner of each sign I held I had scribbled the words "BAND GEEKS UNITE!" in honor of the band geeks on this dicussion board (myself included) and the band geeks on that stage. Peter (the king of the band geeks and my idol...I play french horn too!) The backing band (yey horns and saxes) and Micky and Davy.
My campaign is to show these band geeks that we care by stating at our next concerts "BAND GEEKS UNITE!" (I plan on having one huge sign saying that at Gilford.) I think it's a great way to show the backing band that you care and that you support them all the way in their "band geekiness".
I think these pple are truly, truly talented muscians, and I'm sure in high school they were the constant subject for public mockary...but look at them now! Backing for *THE* Monkees. It's would be like a dream come true for me!
So I choose to support them this fri and I hope that you guys will too.
Peace and Gleeb, Tyme
PS-Spread the word!
From: Dan Lafferty
I personally never use it. But I'm a substitute teacher/future teacher, and have realized that it is definitely a necessity in the classroom. The students use it a lot.
From: ruthypops2001@yahoo.com
hi i'm going to the uk gig in london i'm really looking forwrd to it even though it is so far away i was wondering if any one eles was going to it here and if they are do they have a back stage pass. If this relates to you plz e-mail i really want to meet the monkees i'm sure everyone eles does to i just though i'd see if u don'r ask hten u won't know really! well thanx if u can't be bothered to e-mail me just leave a msg on here ruthxx
From: Teresa in Texas
Yes, we are, Jennie, and I find this thread fascinating. In fact, with a "six degrees of separation," a comparison could probably be made with Monkees music to almost any other artist. By the way, do you know which Bee Gees songs Maurice sang lead on? I'm thinking "Nights on Broadway," but can't think of any others.
From: Allleykat
Looking for someone to chat with that is a monkee fan you can e-mail me at Alleykat1984@aol.com the Merrillville concert was great
From: MONKEE fan
Yes, but now the posts are about the Bee Gees only (i.e. do you have the new album, what song does so and so sing).
From: Allleykat
Looking for someone to chat with that is a monkee fan you can e-mail me at Alleykat1984@aol.com the Merrillville concert was great
From: cory
Mark,
The All Music Guide is a great site isn't it? I have the "AMG Guide To Rock" book & I'm so impressed by how fair they are to The Monkees (stellar reviews for PAC&J and HEAD, positive reviews for the first 3 albums, appropriately mixed reviews for the Tork-less albums & "Justus", one-star reviews for "Changes" & "Pool It!").
From: Allleykat
Looking for someone to chat with that is a monkee fan you can e-mail me at Alleykat1984@aol.com the Merrillville concert was great
From: Monkee biopic
What did you guys think of the Monkee movie that aired on VH1 last year? I enjoyed it a lot. I thought the casting was excellent. You had to blink to make sure you weren't seeing the actual Monkees!
From: Auarian Believe
The Westbury show was great! It was a real trip back in time, but better. Mickey's voice is even better than it was in the 60's. Peter was his adorable self. People were taking pictures despite the rules. You just couldn't help yourself. The temptation to capsulize a bit of one's life was too great. Westbury personnel didn't get too riled. All in all, it was a great night.
From: teresabjorlokken@hotmail.com
dear monkees Ihope you come back to kansascity mo very soon e-mail me back at monkeeich@hotmail.com thankyou.
From: Sue
I recentl;y read somewhere that there was going to be released a recording at some venue of this 2001 tour. Does anyone know anything about it because I can't find out where I saw it.
From: teresabjorlokken@hotmail.com
dear monkees Ihope you come back to kansascity mo very soon e-mail me back at monkeeich@hotmail.com thankyou.
From: jamie
I know this is a stupid post, but I was just wondering if any of the Monkees are currently dating? Not that I think I would have a chance, I'm just nosy I guess and would love to hear more about their personal lives.
From: cory
I hated it. The cheap production values, the lack of actual Monkee music during romp scenes, Mike potrayed as a loveable lug, the ridiculous happy ending, etc.
It should have had much more music (why no "Long Title" during the HEAD scene? Why not a different song over the closing credits than one used earlier in the film?) & ended with the "We've evolved into a real-live band" performance of "Listen to the Band" from "33 1/3"?
The only good thing to come out of it for me personally was that I had never really enjoyed "All of Your Toys" until it wormed it's way inside my head from repeat viewings of the biopic.
From: just-ice
i tried posting this a couple days ago, but i guess it didn't work.
i haven't heard that one, but there is an episode with davy on it. he sings a song, but i can't remember anything else about the episode. i know the song is on a cd called scooby snack tracks. maybe that's what they were talking about.
From: Bootsie
We were row A right in the center. Unfortunately though, row A was not the first row. There were 4 rows in front of us, but we had a better view that way.
My sis and my best friend just got back from the North Platte show yesterday. They said it was a short set for both Natural and the Monkees. It was outdoors and it was terribly windy and cold so I guess I'm not as sad that I couldn't go :)
From: kami
Just wondering if there are going to be August dates added to the tour. Anybody know?
From: Jennie
I think you mean the correction tape...I can never get that to work! I still use good ole fashioned LP in the bottle.
From: Jaime on Longisland
Hey Everyone! I'm Jaime. I am 18 years old and I LOVE the Monkees. I went to 2 westbury music fair concerts, one in march(?) and the recent july 15th concert. I love them all, but my favorite is Davy. He and I have too much in common. This is my first post here on the board and I wanted to introduce myself to everyone here. Hi!! Jaime
From: Stacey
Yes, I use liquid paper quite a bit. Especially for homework assignments. I just used it yesterday actually (not on homework, but yah...)
Besides, it's really fun to make random references to Mike and, what me and my best friend so affectionately call, "the liquid paper fotune". :):)
From: Jaime on Longisland
Hey Everyone! I'm Jaime. I am 18 years old and I LOVE the Monkees. I went to 2 westbury music fair concerts, one in march(?) and the recent july 15th concert. I love them all, but my favorite is Davy. He and I have too much in common. This is my first post here on the board and I wanted to introduce myself to everyone here. Hi!! Jaime
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I was just wondering how long Spencer carried Monkees items. All I remember is my dad seeing stuff one time and then I went to look and it was all gone. Did they carry this merchandise for any certain reason? Do you think they will have it again?? Just wondering.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Tammy
Does anyone here have the new tour CD? What do you think of it? Gleeb, Tammy
From: Rob McCabe
I second the kudos to the Monkee sidemen.
The longest serving sideman, though is drummer Sandy Gennaro, who first played on the '87 tour.
And Mark Clarke (who co-wrote "Every Step Of The Way") is the bass player in Davy's solo band.
Rob
From: Tammy
Does anyone here have the new tour CD? What do you think of it? Gleeb, Tammy
From: Mark T.
I second Cory's sentiments. Definite thumbs down. Except, I've always liked "All of Your Toys"!
From: ryeman
Where has everyone vanished to?
From: Mark T.
Cory, your take on HEAD is excellent. HEAD is definitely NOT a funny motion picture.
From:
From: Mark T.
Cory, gotta agree with you about All Music Guide. It's the first place I check if I've got a CD lined up that I may potentially buy.
From:
Any reviews on Hatch from Saturday night?
From: Mark T.
Cory, no word YET on where the new LIVE CD can be purchased without going to a show. I'm sure they will become available shortly, just like the merchandise did after the '96 and '97 tours at the Monkee Mailbag site (currently not in service). I'll keep looking and let you know.
From: Christi
Its me!!! I am back! It has been almost 2 weeks now but I am here. I see that I missed quite a bit but Oh well. I will still be posting here. and I hope everyone does too.
Till later! Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks! Christi
From: Stacey
Now, I was just wondering... What is "peace, gleeb, and blue dork sticks"?? Well, obviously I know what peace is :), but what about the other two?
From: Tammy
I tried to post this message earlier, but i don't see it so i will try again. does anyone here have the new tour cd? What do you think of it? The souvenirs will not be available at the Buffalo concert. Gleeb, Tammy
From: monkeedoodle
Gleeb is love, but blue dork sticks....I have nooo Idea...lol.
Peace and Gleeb, 'Manda....lol :-)
From: Illinois
If I was a Monkee while doing HQ's, I would do an old Elvis song, like SugarCrumb.
From: monkeedoodle
Monkeescott, email me when you get a chance and give me your snail mail address so I can send you this awesome CD. :-)
Also, try to catch me online, cause I'm dying to tell you this little secret. It's not THAT great, but well, that's just how I am...LOL. I can't stand to keep secrets...hehehe!!
Peace,
'Manda
From: Illinois
If I was a Monkee while doing HQ's, I would do an old Elvis song, like SugarCrumb.
From: Ashley
Blue dork sticks are regular glow sticks, (ya know the ones kids use at halloween?) Well, some people are going to use the glow sticks so we can find each other at the concerts.
Ashley
From: Jan
Has the board crashed or something? I haven't been able to see any new posts after 7/15!
Jan
From: Rocker
Yes it could have been better if they'd had a bigger budget. Not a bad effort in spite of this. Does anybody know what the Monkees thought of the movie?
From: Rosita
Hey everyone,
Is there anyone going to any remaining tour dates that could pick up the 2001 CD? I only had enough money for a tour book in Knoxville and probably won't get to see them again this year to pick one up.
From: Rocker
Yes it could have been better if they'd had a bigger budget. Not a bad effort in spite of this. Does anybody know what the Monkees thought of the movie?
From: Rosita
Hey everyone,
Is there anyone going to any remaining tour dates that could pick up the 2001 CD? I only had enough money for a tour book in Knoxville and probably won't get to see them again this year to pick one up.
From: Steph
OH I KNOW!!! I wanted to smack them both!! Only that one guy (I don't know his name) knew anything about them. That was so uncalled for!! I am boycotting the Early Show - not that I ever watch it anyway. How can they show that much disrespect for their guests? I feel like writing an email to the Early Show letting them know how unappreciated that was - maybe school them a bit in their Monkeeology.
From: Rosita
Hey everyone,
Is there anyone going to any remaining tour dates that could pick up the 2001 CD? I only had enough money for a tour book in Knoxville and probably won't get to see them again this year to pick one up.
From: Jason
Hi everyone, saw the monkees in DC in March and seeing them in July at Wolf trap, cant wait!! Anyhow to anyone who has seen the summer tour, do they still just walk out after the band plays opening riffs? I think they should fly in on ropes as Monkee Men or appear with some pyro or even go back to the 60s and show the opening segment of the tv show and run out after..what are your thoughts?
From:
From: Jason
Hi everyone, saw the monkees in DC in March and seeing them in July at Wolf trap, cant wait!! Anyhow to anyone who has seen the summer tour, do they still just walk out after the band plays opening riffs? I think they should fly in on ropes as Monkee Men or appear with some pyro or even go back to the 60s and show the opening segment of the tv show and run out after..what are your thoughts?
From: Jaime on longisland
The browser isnt refreshing the website, so i'm not seeing anything. If anyone want to chat bout monkees, e-mail me at :dontwalkbutrun@aol.com
Jaime
From: Leigh Angela
If I remember correctly, Micky and Sammy wanted to come up with a new word for Love, because they were living in the 60s and "love" was too overused by society, so they came up with the word "gleeb." I'm pretty sure of this, but I'm too lazy to get out Micky's book right now.
From: Jaime on longisland
The browser isnt refreshing the website, so i'm not seeing anything. If anyone want to chat bout monkees, e-mail me at :dontwalkbutrun@aol.com
Jaime
From: Cindy
Well, a lurker comes forth!:-) I have enjoyed listeing to all the descriptions of the concerts etc and actually went to one of the Vegas ones and Phoenix.
My question is, how can someone who isn't gonna make any of these later east coast concerts get a copy of that concert CD they are selling...and has anyone heard of a video of the concert? I was just hoping to see them again...;-)
Thanks!!!!!!
PS...doesn't everyone think the guys just looked like they were having a great time on the Morning Show????
From: Mike
What is the problem with the AUNTIE GRIZELDA website? I've email several times over a 6 month period...with NO RESPONSE!! I know somebody is there as they changed the screens?!?! They offer items for sale and encourage you to ask questions...BUT THESE WEIRDOS DO NOT RESPOND AT ALL!!! Why have a website if you cannot have the common 'decency' to respond?
From: Marirose
I'd be very interested in a CD of the Vegas show also. I was living in Virginia when they were in DC in March, but had sick kids, so couldn't attend. Now that they'll be at Wolf Trap in July, I no longer live in VA.
From: Stacey
So am I going crazy, or has no one posted since July 15th???
From: Cindy
personally, I have never been able to stand Bryant "I could never be humble" Gumble. He is a pompous man, who has no respect for anyone else. IMO
From: Kestra
Greetings <written last night about 11pm> We just got home from the concert at the Calvin. Ok, I will admit that the 5th row seats I was changed to *were* great. <If you want a song list you will have to find someone else, I couldn't keep track>
Natural started the evening, performing 5 songs before the a cappella set then they did the dance thing. I must admit that I am really starting to like them altho Patrick really needs a haircut<i know, its just that i cant get out of stylist mode>. I just wish that they weren't all so young<yes I have the same problem with my cousins' band> Then came intermission, which I didn't realize was going to be so long, about 30min. SO mom and I didn't go and get any souvenirs. She was more disappointed since this was also her first concert. Finally it was time for the boys to appear. They were faboo! Mom kept snapping pics so I don't know how many will come out. They were having a blast, even making an inside joke about NoHo. In my opinion Davy seemed to have more of the stage than he did at Mohegan, not that that is a bad thing. It was really nice seeing "I Wanna Be Free" preformed altho I have always preferred the slower version. He also did "Little Bit Me..." which I don't remember from before. Micky had fun with the timpani, and did an ok job with "Going Down" I was disappointed that he skipped some of the verses, but I was able to keep up with him. He did his blues tune and cracked a few jokes about hat hair, which I would have gladly fixed for him. Peter did Bach and "Auntie Grizelda" and also sang lead on the 3<i think> songs from *Head*. They ended the evening with "Daydream Believer" with out the short bit. They also brought out Natural and 2 of Davys' daughters and 1 of Mickys'. They came out for a 3<again I think, I guess I am not doing that well am I?>song encore. "I'm a Believer" I'm Not Your Stepping Stone" and "Pleasant Valley Sunday" Now for the looks. Peter looked at me at least 3 times, and I got Davys' attention during "Girl". Micky spent most of his time on the other side of the stage. I am now convinced that I will soon be a convert to the way of the Tork. All in all, the concert was rocking, I cant wait untill I see them again.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
"May the Great Bird of the Galaxy bless your planet!" Sulu to Rand, on-air use of Gene Roddenberry's nickname The Man Trap ST:TOS
From: suzannetigger
here I am as usual pondering things I probably have no buisness pondering and I can't help but wonder who was best served in the Monkees/Mike liason? would Mike's musical career reach the proportions it has without his Monkee background or would he have been just another nameless, faceless struggling muscian trying to make it big until hunger and eviction threats forced him to drop out of the music scene altogether? Or did his special talents and convictions to be viewed as a serious artist give the group more credentials and respectability? Would the Monkees continue to be as popular as they are today? Thoughts anyone?
From: Jennie
I feel I have to mention this, since I was there...Peter ate a rose. Someone gave a rose to Davy, Davy handed it to Peter saying, "This is your favorite flower!" And Peter proceeded to take a big bite, then spit the petals out all over the stage. And they say Micky needs prozac!!! :)
Also, I met Kestra, and she's super-nice! She gave me a blue glow stick to keep as a souvenir, which worked out really well, because my glow bracelet started leaking and I couldn't keep it.
Anyway, the stage was insanely close to the front row (where I was...hyperventilating) because they moved the show from a larger venue, for the purpose of having it indoors, rather than out.
Overall, the performance was fabulous! Out of all 5 Monkees concerts I've been to, this was no doubt the most incredible.
From: Cindy
personally, I have never been able to stand Bryant "I could never be humble" Gumble. He is a pompous man, who has no respect for anyone else. IMO
From: Cheryl
You can email me at cknuth1@hotmail.com and I could pick it up for you next week.
From: suzannetigger
HI Cindy glad to see you comeforth. I think there is apost a little further down from Mark T about maybe the Cd selling after the tour is over, plus we are all hoping ferverently for a new album to come out after the tour.
Sue
From: Leigh Angela
One or two of his daughters are with him on the road right now. One came over from England with her boyfriend, and one will be living with him in LA for a whole year!
From: suzannetigger
OH NO Jason Don't start on that thread again please! LOL
From: Estrella
The date is still listed at the sponsor's website, fantasma.com and at pollstar.com.
From: suzannetigger
OH NO Jason Don't start on that thread again please! LOL
From: Acquiesce1313@cs.com
Anyone out there have VHS footage of the Monkees at Kewadin Casino in Michigan?
From: Cindy
We use those little blue plastic white out rolls of paper. liquid paper dryliner it is called...no globs...no mess!
Wonder if that still counts?:-)
From: just-ice
why? hq was when they finally got some control over what was going to be on their albums. why would you do a remake of an old song that everybody knows when you were trying to gain some musical respect. remaking that song would have only served to piss off elvis fans.
From: Cindy
We use those little blue plastic white out rolls of paper. liquid paper dryliner it is called...no globs...no mess!
Wonder if that still counts?:-)
From: just-ice
talk to cheryl. that's how i got mine ( a thousand thanks if you're reading this cheryl)
i thought it was pretty good, but i'm so desperate for new monkees stuff i'd love them singing the phone book. if you didn't go to one of the concerts, i doubt you'd appreciate it as much. some of the jokes would be lost (especially peter's bach jacket) it's deffinitely a souvenir, not an album in my opinion. i really wish they would release the new recordings they supposedly did before the tours started. but i wouldn't give mine up.
From: Cindy
We use those little blue plastic white out rolls of paper. liquid paper dryliner it is called...no globs...no mess!
Wonder if that still counts?:-)
From: just-ice
did you ever go to the old board? the new messages were posted a the bottom, so you had to wait for EVERYTHING to load. then, there was some glitch that caused the new messages to be posted in the middle and tons of people left becase they couldn't find the new stuff. this may be slow and/or confusing, but it's deffinitely a step up.
From: Cindy
We use those little blue plastic white out rolls of paper. liquid paper dryliner it is called...no globs...no mess!
Wonder if that still counts?:-)
From: Julianna Michelle
Mike is strongly, STRONGLY attached to Victoria Kennedy. They've been dating since the early 90's I believ, he may even be married to her, not sure. I believe Peter has a blonde girlfriend. Last I heard Davy was dating someone, not sure who. But I have no idea about Micky, I didn't think he was seeing anyone...
Love is the ultimate trip! Amanda
From: suzannetigger
thanks for the advice Cory I may surf over to Nez's site and see whats there too.
From: Julianna Michelle
Hey ryeman,
Let's see, well you know, everyone got into arguements and either got offended or fed up so a lot of the orginal posters left. DavyHitMeFirst, Monkeescott, Mark T., John, Cory, Suzannetigger and I think Ashley, ... there were a few others I can't recall. Tyme was going to leave but I don't think she did. Some of them are posting on Monkees.com and on Andrea's site, I think it was. I hope this helped. The board has really gone downhill... I wish everyone hadn't been so touchy, then maybe the board would still rock... oh well. I would have replied sooner but for some reason my computer didn't show all the posts that have been made since the 15th, I thought no one had posted at all. Strange.
Legalize Phorodis! Amanda
From: suzannetigger
for me the top 3 rock movies would be Tommy Head Jesus Christ Super Star then Hard Days and I never saw spinal tap, but the Woodstock and Monterray Pop festival Documentaries are way up on my fav list too.
From: Julianna Michelle
I agree with Just-ice. Why in the world would they want to do that? HQ was about them, and only them. Besides, I think it was Peter who didn't really like Elvis at all. He didn't get into that sort of Chuck Berry, Elvis Rock-n-roll, what moved him was the R-n-B singers like Jackie Wilson. So he would not have been content doing that anyway. They would never have done that, who wants to do covers when you can move people with your own words and melodies?
Legalize Phorodis! Amanda
From: Stacey
I think they should come out disguised as eachother! Like, Peter is wearing a Micky suit...nono, only joking. I agree, don't start that again!
From: Julianna Michelle
Thanks you Jan! I thought I was the only one! Yeah, I don't know if it crashed or not, but it's not getting any better.
God is love. Amanda
From: Stacey
I couldn't have said it better myself!
And I think the one cool guy's name was Mark. The one who sang with Davy in Daydream Believer, right?
From: jamie-in FL
Hey, You stole my name! That's ok though...I'll just put Jamie-in FL now...Didn't want anyone thinkin I posted that. I really don't know if the Monkees are dating or not, though...Just wanted to clear up some confusion.
From: Mark J.
Don't have the new one yet. I'm waiting for the import release (U.K., I think) 'cause it has a bonus track... (Maybe we should find a Bee Gee Message Board somewhere, too! Perhaps beegeesonline.com...?)
Apples, Peaches, Bananas, and Pears, Mark J.
From: jamie-in FL
Hey, You stole my name! That's ok though...I'll just put Jamie-in FL now...Didn't want anyone thinkin I posted that. I really don't know if the Monkees are dating or not, though...Just wanted to clear up some confusion.
From: Mark J.
So many questions, so little time... Mike Nesmith was a solid, talented songwriter before the Monkees -- but, I feel that the exposure his songs (and abilities) received through the Monkees really made people take notice (and undoubtedly added to the credibility of the group). I'm sure that his years with The Monkees were necessary in order to achieve any major solo opportunities. It's a toss-up, but I feel that without his Monkees experience, Michael Blessing may have just drifted along with the Tumbling Tumbleweeds. (I'm a major Nez fan, but "That's Showbusiness!")
From: Sean
Hey Guys, I attended both concerts, and they were both EXCELLENT! Even despite the technical difficuties...(Auntie Grizelda- Peter's Mic died and Davy went up and began singing the first verse of the song...). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has any reviews (like from the papers/internet) of the 7/12 show at PNC or the 7/16 show at Westbury. Thanks!
From: Chris Coyle
This really is a question you can't really answer. I mean what would of happened if John never met Paul?
The 4 Monkees were chosen out of casting call from a large group of peolple. They chose the best, it wouldn't of worked ANY OTHER WAY.
Mike's career path has changed through out the years. The proof of that alone shows that he would of made something in show business. He's quite talented and can do things on his own. I dont think he would of been the star they all became, but I think he had a better chance then say Micky and Peter. The samething goes for Davy, both of these guys already had record contracts.
Chris
From: mm
How do you know about the one daughter living withhim in LA? Did he tell you at a meet and greet?
From: Chris Coyle
The Spencer Gifts products lasted only about a year in 1998. If you're lucky, you'll see stuff in the decount bin. I just found a pile of heart shape boxes (priced $22) for $1.60 each..
Chris
From: Jan
Actually, I've heard about the exact opposite of Julianna. Peter broke off with the blonde live-in right before they started touring, and appears to be playing the field right now. I haven't heard of David dating anyone seriously since Gillian. Micky is apparently still dating that Donna girl, cause someone just said she was at Westbury and he dedicated a song to her.
The Mike and Victoria thing I know nothing about!
Jan
From: Chris Coyle
Guys put me down too! After watching that movie, I had nightmares that the actor who played Davy was REALLY Davy Jones... God was that dude just as ugly as a horse or what?
That "happy" beach ending at the end was just pure puke!
Chris
From: Johnny Ramone
Just got back from Meadowbrook Farm..great show, great crowd. The boys pulled out some unusual stuff - Davy's "Love You Forever" and "No Time" with each guy taking a verse. I sorta remember the set list though it is a little shaky in the middle, I'm sure I have all of the songs: Here goes: Last Train to Clarksville, Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow), For Pete's Sake, Girl I Knew Somewhere, Valleri, Randy's Scouse Git, Mary, Mary, Auntie Grizelda, Can You Dig It, I Wanna Be Free, Love You Forever, Going Down, Girl, Higher and Higher, Peter's Bach Thing, No Time, Long Title: Do I Have to Do This All Over Again, Since I Fell For You (Mickey solo), Lucille (Peter Solo), Oliver Medley (Davy solo), That Was Then, This Is Now (with Davy), A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You, She Hangs Out, Porpoise Song, Listen to the Band, Daydream Beleiver. Encore: I'm A Believer, Stepping Stone, Pleasant Valley Sunday. My 8 year old sang through the whole show.
From: **Ashley**
I liked the movie but I think that they could have done better. Long Title shoulda been playing in Mike's bday scene in HEAD, they weren't even in order doing the Monkee walk!, and they didn't say what happened to Phyllis or even hint that Peter then left the group. And what - Samantha didn't exist??
From: Sean
Hey Guys, Just heard that back in the '80s the Monkees participated in the now famous MTV Baseball game. Does anyone have any footage of this?
Sean
From: Teresa in Texas
Most definitely agree, Mark. My kids want to watch this one, but I'm not sure they're ready for it, yet. They LOVE the show, but I'm kind of afraid of their reaction to this movie. Maybe when they're older.
From: johnny ramone
me and about 3,000 other monkee fans enjoyed a near perfect night with the boys last night..I have the set list if people are interested.
From: Teresa in Texas
Yeah, Bryant Gumbel's the reason I watch the Today Show. And I watched Good Morning America when Bryant was on the Today Show. And CBS wonders why their morning ratings are so low!
From: johnny ramone
not really a reply, but is anyone else having problems posting to this board??
From: wiz_glick@yahoo.com
Ditty Diego(war chant) neatly sums up the film, the monkees, and all the great questions of life. They talk about being mindles images created by the establishment and they agree with it. They know who they are and what has happened. ALso, it says make the choice of wether or not you like the monkees and wehter or not they are manufactured. Any choice you make, the Monkees will never be free again. The image will always stay with them. The basic story line of the movie was the Monkees being manufactured (the process) was exposed. Then, it was the monkees vs. the establishment. Thrown into the mess was the combination of every kind of American film ever made. To deal with the black box issue: they had a meat locker (aka a big, black box) because the other proffessionals on the lot were upset by the monkees activities and these long haired weirdos running around. they also had to protect them from members of the press. So the box is a metaphor for life. The cage society has tucked them away in and now they're trapped. Everyone has a different way to get out of the box. Mike's (summer) way is to con and talk his way out of it or get it off other people. To do it, as everything else, on his own. Peter's(winter) way is to open your mind and think yourself out. Peter was always frustrated as a monkee cause he could never really make any social or poitical statements to the press. He was trapped, and his only way out of it was to quietly expand his mind, to get involved in the whole eastern cultutr thing. Accept the box as a part of life and understand the metaphor, share it with others. Davy (spring) way is to push and fight his way out. Davy feels the need to let you know he's there. He fights to get his way in society,. it s how he deals with people. Micky's (fall) way, i havent figured out yet
From: Leigh Angela
Yep he sure did. She's going to university he said, so she's going to intern in LA...she's doing "Media studies" which I assume is like film/tv production, same thing I used to study. He said it was all her idea and he's ecstatic!
From: wiz_glick@yahoo.com
Ditty Diego(war chant) neatly sums up the film, the monkees, and all the great questions of life. They talk about being mindles images created by the establishment and they agree with it. They know who they are and what has happened. ALso, it says make the choice of wether or not you like the monkees and wehter or not they are manufactured. Any choice you make, the Monkees will never be free again. The image will always stay with them. The basic story line of the movie was the Monkees being manufactured (the process) was exposed. Then, it was the monkees vs. the establishment. Thrown into the mess was the combination of every kind of American film ever made. To deal with the black box issue: they had a meat locker (aka a big, black box) because the other proffessionals on the lot were upset by the monkees activities and these long haired weirdos running around. they also had to protect them from members of the press. So the box is a metaphor for life. The cage society has tucked them away in and now they're trapped. Everyone has a different way to get out of the box. Mike's (summer) way is to con and talk his way out of it or get it off other people. To do it, as everything else, on his own. Peter's(winter) way is to open your mind and think yourself out. Peter was always frustrated as a monkee cause he could never really make any social or poitical statements to the press. He was trapped, and his only way out of it was to quietly expand his mind, to get involved in the whole eastern cultutr thing. Accept the box as a part of life and understand the metaphor, share it with others. Davy (spring) way is to push and fight his way out. Davy feels the need to let you know he's there. He fights to get his way in society,. it s how he deals with people. Micky's (fall) way, i havent figured out yet
From: Beth
I was just wondering if anybody had a translation for Mike's song "Brazil" (off of tropical campfires) or knew where I could get one. Thanks!
From: Jennie
MONKEE fan, I've never seen your name on this board before. Why are you hiding your identity if you feel so strongly?
Here’s a warning, this is a loooooooong post. Sorry, but I have a lot to say about the differences and similarities between these two bands.
My question about the new album was because it has a different sound from most of the Bee Gees work (sounds more like some of their early stuff), which reminds me a lot of the Monkees in many ways. Especially on the tracks were Maurice is singing lead vocal (i.e. 'Man in the Middle').
I find the Bee Gees to be very similar to the Monkees as a band, but they are regarded very differently (by listeners, critics). It confuses me as to why the Bee Gees are regarded as 'legendary' and the Monkees are regarded as 'has-beens'. The Bee Gees had many more hits than the Monkees, but I believe that a large part of that could be attributed to opportunity. As in, the Bee Gees had more opportunity to make themselves heard.
On the Bee Gees new album, there’s a variety of musical styles, contemporary sounds that still resemble what you’d expect from the Bee Gees, some powerful ballads (something the Monkees never really tried, but I think they’d be great with), new music that sounds like it should be old music (nostalgic, even though you’ve never really heard it before), and complete departures from what you would expect. This variety created a dynamic album, that I hold in high regard. Why can’t the Monkees do something like that? People keep talking about how a new Monkees album should sound...well, why can’t it be a variety of what the Monkees are capable of? So what if the album never goes diamond! It’ll be a great accomplishment for the Monkees, and a wonderful experience for fans new and old.
I think the Monkees are involved with the wrong people for that kind of a project, though. Rhino seems more interested in keeping the Monkees past alive, rather than try to see them through the present, and build a bigger future. And I can’t say I blame them for being cautious. I happen to love the Justus album, but that’s because I’m a fan that would support anything they did, and love it. But Justus is not something that could be appealing to a large outside audience who didn’t already like the Monkees. The Bee Gees new album has that kind of appeal that would bring in a new fan, and make them want to find out more. I was listening to the album at work one day, and a co-worker who had never listened to the Bee Gees became an instant fan! The Monkees CAN DO THIS! If anyone has the Bee Gees new album, or even wants to go to cdnow.com and listen to some clips, some of those songs would work very well with the Monkees! Especially track #2. Just my opinion. I think the Monkees are just as capable as the Bee Gees, but the need to step away from what they’ve done in the past and make a new album that has universal appeal. By that, I mean that they shouldn’t just go for an album with ONE overall sound, they should try to make an album that covers a few musical bases, without going to the extreme in any one direction.
Sorry this is so long, and if you made it this far, you deserve a medal!
From: friend
Hi Jamie, I don't know about Mike, but I do know that Micky is dating someone and Davy is not. His relationship with someone ended fairly recently.(Last 6 months or so)
From:
Lol! Hunger and eviction, are you sure you're not talking about Peter Tork? Michael Blessing was a pretty good songwriter who was already signed on Colpix records, and was a frequent player at the local LA clubs. If he didn't wind up as a Monkee, he would have been doing something else in music business and been successful at that I think. Maybe not as worldly successful as with The Monkees, and maybe not as fast, but he would probably turn out just fine.
As far as The Monkees needing him, would Bill Chadwick have went to the press and said "Call us fake, because by god we are!" and have the group be as popular as they are now? Letting the public know about how real The Monkees were in January 1967 set in motion events that would lead to "Headquarters", "PAC&J Ltd", and "Daydream Believer". Without that, they could have been the true pre-Partridge Family.
I don't think Mike's songwriting gave The Monkees any creditibility until after January 1967. They were doing things like any other music act, exception The Beatles, at that time. Without Mike telling the press how things were, his songwriting would not have been too noticable to make a difference in The Monkees' image unless Kirshner did a 180 and gave Nez an A side of a single.
From: Tammy
I've tried to post several times in the last few days and the board refused to put them up. I had to amuse myself with the board on themonkees.com, but they seem to be very negative over there. I'm glad this board is back in (sort of) working order!! Gleeb, Tammy
From: Estrella
Watching it was slightly freaky. The producers took a major poetic license with the timing of the film and in order not to confuse the general audience.
Headquarters may have been bumped off the #1 slot after SPLHCB, but I don't think it stopped selling altogether (The Monkees and The Beatles target age range were different). Davy getting a black eye was on the set of the show, and Davy bead butted Peter first. So many changes, I kind of wonder if they just made the lead actors look like The Monkees and put Monkees on the title so many people would watch the film.
From: Kestra
awe shucks. Now my secret is out ;)
Alwaysforever, Kestra
From: Jennie
Exactly how I feel about older men. It's like you were reading my mind!
From: saturdayschild
Okay, this is one weird coinkydink, as Micky would say! Last night my husband and I were at the Trump Marina show in Atlantic City. This was the 4th show I have seen this year and this was by far the best. Even though the guys arrived a little late, (had trouble getting there from Buffalo earlier in the day), they were in a great mood and it really came across in the show.
Anyway, today, Sunday, we had to take my son to baseball camp up in North Central Pennsylvania. On the way home, on Route 80 East, in the Poconos, a car passes us and my husband says "Look at that license plate!". It simply said "MONKEES" and was from Michigan. A younger looking blonde woman was driving. Does anyone on this board know who this is? Quite a coincidence (sp?) since the Monkees were en route from Atlantic City to Virginia, nowhere near Northeast PA!!
So, if the MONKEES plate lady is on this board, I saw you on Route 80 and I love your license plate!!
From: Dan Lafferty
I posted a long and thoughtful response to this right after it was posted, and something went wrong and it didn't go through. I'm irritated. So I'll try and remember the gist of what I said and see if it works this time.
Obviously, the commercial success of the Monkees really wasn't due to his talents as a musician. Probably the closest things to hits that he wrote were "The Girl I Knew Somewhere" and "Mary, Mary" (but I'm not sure about that...I don't have the numbers in front of me!). As far as adding depth to the band, though, certainly he was the one person who kept them interesting and wrote songs that were timeless and undateable. "Nine Times Blue" could have been written today. Furthermore, if it weren't for his persistence and grit and determination to make the Monkees into a real band, I'm not sure there even would have been a third album.
I really don't know that his past with the Monkees actually helped his solo career. If anything, it may have hindered it. After all, many people who didn't like music like "I'm A Believer" but would have enjoyed "Good Clean Fun" and assumed they didn't like the Monkees due to what they were exposed to on the radio, didn't give Mike's solo music (or even his contributions to the Monkees, for that matter) a chance.
From: Jason
Hey everyone, just got in from The Monkees concert from Wolf trap and it was the best cocnert ever!! And I have seen mnay concerts before. The weather was gorgeous and the palces was packed. I hear it was sold out but if you looked closely you could see a couple of random empty seats here and there. Anyhow they soudned so much better than in March and I thought they soudned great then. Micky has lost alot of weight and was super energetic. The guys were in top Monkees form and were hilarious. It was great to here No Time in the mix. The last 4 songs is quite the combo!! The live cd is excellent as well. well thats all for now
From: Dan Lafferty
I never even watched it. I just knew it was going to be a disaster.
From:
ah this sucks! ive been checking ticketmaster for months now jsut waiting and waiting and waiting for tickets to go on sale there:(
thanks so much for the info! ill be calling first thing in the morning!
From: Rocker
Head, Spinal Tap, Yellow Submarine, The Song Remains the Same, and Gimmie Shelter are a few of my faves.
From:
No offense to this board, but it's very unorganized, takes very long to load, the reply doesn't always work, and not very many people resond to the messages. I encourage people to check out the discussion board at www.themonkees.com. It loads very fast, isn't complicated, and there are more people who can answer the questions you may have, more efficiently. Peace and Love.
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
Blue Dork Sticks are glo sticks that I take to concerts. I mentioned them one time and a loooooooooooong discussion was started about them. I'm sure if you read down far enough, through all the bickering about age and seriousness etc, you will find out.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks! Christi
From: Sarah Morris in PA
How do you know Micky's dating someone, did you see him with a person?
From: Leigh Angela
Stacey, I just saw your best friend's monkees alert list review of the show, where she says her film was exposed. It must be the Monkees curse because in Cleveland I got a picture of me with ALL 3 monkees, 2 even to be sure, and MY FILM WAS EXPOSED!!!! I yelled and screamed, I was SO upset. Never did I think I would have that opportunity!!!
Hope she feels better when she hears that :-)
Leigh
From:
Micky dedicated a song at the Westbury show last Sunday night to his girlfriend Donna. I saw her at the meet and greet.
From: MonkEShyn
OK out there. I am trying to get tix for the Monkees concert. I go to Ticketmaster.com website and all it says (for me anyway) is The Monkees with a "special guest". Can I hope of a certain missing Monkee will make a guest appearance??? Anyone can look it up (and dream!:))
From:
Peter broke up with his live in girlfriend Maryjo before the March tour started as of now Peter is playing the field. Davy has no steady girlfriend since Gillian he even stated he is staying single for now on. Micky does go on record saying he has a girlfriend named Donna and she was at the NY show a week ago. They are all single
From: Steph
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but: MONKEES / Raleigh, NC / July 24, 2001
the above show has been added and tickets will go on sale Monday, June 25, 2001
And now for the plug- Plans for Monkeestock 2001 have been brewing for a while now, and Andrea and I have been really truckin' on it :) drum roll please... The Official Monkeestock site is now up and running!!! Andrea did a lot of renovations and updates before she left, and we've got a contest coming up, so come visit us...pleeeeeeeeeezzzzzeeeeee....
Thanks all!! Steph (steph@fanstuffonline.com)
www.fanstuffonline.com
From: mickysgirl95@hotmail.com (Maggie)
Hey Jason,
I couldent agree with you more, the Monkees put on a fantastic concert last night! I got a chance to meet Peter and Davy afterwards at the meet and greet. Micky was supposed to come out to greet his fans as well, but we were told that he was too tiered to come. He did look tiered at the end. But I guess that's what heavy touring can do to a person.
-Maggie
From: Steph
Unfortunately, it's a tease. The "special guest" is Natural still. As much as some of us would like it to be the heir to the Liquid Paper fortune...
From:
Davys youngest daughter Annabel came in last Sunday July 15 to join him on the tour and his other daughter Jessica works on the Monkees tour so he now has both of his daughters with him. Charlotte, Mickys daughter flew in from England with her boyfriend to also join Micky on the tour.
From: Deborah in Clearwater
It seems like things have been better on this board since the thread "I am standing up" Lets just realize that we all have the same interest here. Some people might have some pretty farfetched ideas (like bubbaslims) but he is able to post what he wants as well as the rest of us. We know what he said is some kind of fantasy for the Monkees to play out (I guess). I'm a serious fan, but I do like to have fun. We have a summer full of concerts that the guys are doing just for us (their fans) So can't we all just get along and fun with it?
From: MonkEShyn
I really liked the Atlantic City show on July 21. Got to touch Micky, Davy and Peter! They really know how to put on a show! Was anyone there and realized Natural was no where to be found? I just hope my 4 rolls of film come out!
From: Leigh Angela
Peter Tork's head shot and resume is on ebay...was considering getting that myself.
From: Jeff
I saw the Monkees' at the Wolf Trap in Vienna, Virginia (outside of Washington, D.C.) last night. This was my first Monkees' concert, and I thought they put on a great show. Micky, Davy, and Peter were backed up by an eight-piece band. The approximate set list is below. I might have missed a song or two, and some of the middle songs are out of order (please feel free to post corrections).
Last Train To Clarksville Look Out Here Comes Tomorrow The Girl I Knew Somewhere Valleri Randy Scouse Git A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You Mary, Mary Your Auntie Grizelda I Wanna Be Free I'll Love You Forever Goin' Down Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher and Higher) (Peter) Bach: Two Part Invention in F (Peter solo on electric keyboard) No Time Girl (women give flowers to Davy) Since I Fell For You (Mickey) Lucille (Peter) Oliver Medley (Davy) She Hangs Out That Was Then, This Is Now Long Title (from “Head”) Porpoise Song/Listen To The Band Medley Daydream Believer I'm A Believer (I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone Pleasant Valley Sunday
At the concert, I purchased the "2001: Live in Las Vegas" CD that was recorded in March. The 20-song set list is very close to the 26-song set I heard last night, and I think the CD is a good souvenir of the concert. My one comment is that there wasn't a lot of improvisation or spontaneity between the March show and last night's show. Micky's introduction to "Randy Scouse Git" was repeated verbatim from the CD recording. His over-the-top soft-opera imitation of his father singing "Some Enchanted Evening" was also an exact copy. Davy repeated the exact same "Brady Bunch" introduction to "Girl".
I'm a big Beatles' fan, and I noted three Beatles' references during the show:
1) In the free Wolf Trap program, the write-up included: "During the two years the (Monkees' TV) show originally aired (1966-1968), Monkees' records outsold The Beatles and The Rolling Stones combined."
2) In introducing "Randy Scouse Git," Micky Dolenz said he wrote this after attending a party with the Beatles in 1966. He also said he didn't remember much about the party, but was told he had a good time!
3) "She Hangs Out" ended with the bass line to "Day Tripper."
I had heard "The Porpoise Song" before, but for whatever reason had never really noticed it. I "discovered" the song last night and love it! I will say, however, that I found "Porpoise Song" and "Listen to the Band" to be a strange medley/combination.
All in all, I had a great time last night, and was delighted to see the Monkees!
Jeff
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From: satschild73
After the July 21st A.C. concert, I spottted Davy standing with some other people by the bar. I VERY POLITELY asked him "Could I please have my picture taken with you?". He looked at me for a minute and said "sure", in the most pathetic response possible. He acted like I was begging for money or blood or something. He posed for picture and did not even smile. After the picture was taken I thanked him and he just turned around and didn't even say a word. I could understand if I was rude or I chased him down or interupted him, but I didn't. After I walked away he I saw him laughing and signing autographs and taking pictures with other people. I can't understand what the deal was. I've been a fan for so long and finally got the chance to meet him and he was just so rude. I was so disappointed. The only thing I could think of was, I had on a Monkees.net t-shirt and maybe he thought I was just some weird fan. I don't know. If he's going to go out in the casino, in the public, after a show, he's going to see fans. SO GET OVER IT DAVY!!!
From: davyhitmefirst
It dawned on me today that, a while back, I stated that Capitol Records hadn't had a hit in years. Well, to quote Nez - dumb a** me. I forgot all about Radiohead! DOH!
And, as much as I still maintain the Mkees have a good thing going with Rhino, I think Virgin might be able to do something good with them. (tThe label has nothing to do with the stores, so this is not a shameless plug!) They are known as an "artist friendly" label, and they certainly have their share of hits across a broad spectrum (see the article on the front page of Billboard this week - that's where I got the idea).
I have taken my ginko and hope not to have any more factual lapses - forgive me??!!!
Peace- DHMF
From: Freedom's Child
I'm sorry that you had such a bad experience but I have to ask you something...when you saw Davy laughing, chatting it up and taking pics with other fans, why didn't you step in and speak? Why didn't you just march up to him and ask him why he treated you so badly? You may have gotten an apology...maybe you did interrupt him. Remember, fans invade his privacy to the full extinct..visit his home in Beavertown, harrass...I'm not saying you did that..just you had the chance to ask him why and you never did!
From: Stacey
sorry about the blank post below...I gotta quit hitting wrong buttons! But my question was this: I visited the Monkeestock site (as was so 'shamelessly' promoted'), and I took the poll. One of the questions was 'what is your favorite Peter vocal song?' and one of the options was "Long Title... (written by George Harrison)"
So....that song was written by George?? Because I certainly did not know that!! Go George!!!!!
From: Kiola
what did micky's chick look like?
From: davyhitmefirst
That's a joke. In concerts, Peter will say something to the effect of "this is a song of my own composition, written By George Harrison". I've also heard him attribute it to Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney in the same fashion.
Just a little Tork humour from our friends at Monkeestock (hehehe)...
Peace- DHMF
From: Kiola
what did micky's chick look like?
From: Dan Lafferty
From: Deidre
yes, by all means, please post the set list, and any other comments about the show that you remember! thanks in advance!
From: suzannetigger
wonderful post! Thanks for the input. I enjoy reading folks opinions on these rather inane topics. I gather from reading your comments that you feel the Monkees as a group benifitted more from the liason than Mike did? or do you think it was more of a mutual benifit? Personally I think your right, Mike would have some success as a singer/songwriter, and perhaps David Jones as some sort of personality But as talented as Micky and Peter were I wonder if they would have acheived the succes and fame they enjoyed because of the Monkees? Well Micky maybe if he started pursuing his singing career more seriously but Peter sort of makes me think of a floater, someone who could take it or leave it. any other opinions on this subject?
Sue
From:
He gave you an autograph and a picture what else do you want from Davy? He just finished a show and was at the bar. Why would you say he was rude? I have never had a problem with him and I met and talked to him many times in a bar scene and other times. Just remember one thing this man and any other entertainer out theredoes not owe anybody a thing once they are off the stage. You pay to see him perform and if after the show he is nice enough to give you a autograph on his off time then consider yourself lucky. As for not being his fan anymore he has thousands of them. Maybe if you were more dressed up he would have taken more of a notice to you. No one would ever catch me walking into a Casino wearing a monkees t-shirt
From: Stacey
Darn. :)
Oh well, call me ignorant of all things Monkees I guess!! No, not really, but you gotta give me a break- I've only seen one Monkees concert, and they didn't sing that song, so this was the first I'd heard of "written by George Harrison" ! :) :p Silly me.
*Dig it!* ~Stacey
From:
He gave you an autograph and a picture what else do you want from Davy? He just finished a show and was at the bar. Why would you say he was rude? I have never had a problem with him and I met and talked to him many times in a bar scene and other times. Just remember one thing this man and any other entertainer out theredoes not owe anybody a thing once they are off the stage. You pay to see him perform and if after the show he is nice enough to give you a autograph on his off time then consider yourself lucky. As for not being his fan anymore he has thousands of them. Maybe if you were more dressed up he would have taken more of a notice to you. No one would ever catch me walking into a Casino wearing a monkees t-shirt
From: suzannetigger
so true so true. I can't even imagine anyone else but Mike, Davy peter and Micky as the Monkees. I mean imagine like Bob Denver in the Micky character. Yuck! Whatever the reasons for those particular young men to be picked, they certainly clicked as a group.
From: phoenix
I also have to add my two cents about the Wolf Trap show. I think this was my 8th Monkees show and while I don't think it was the best SHOW I'd seen (that would be when they'd just returned from Europe with Mike and had Micky playing drums on about half of the show's songs), I do think this was the best PERFOMANCE I'd ever seen by them. All three were in fine voice, the large stage enabled them to get around a little more and they seemed to honestly enjoy being up there with each other. At the show I found myself saying to myself, "These guys STILL do it for me like nobody else."
From: Dan Lafferty
Yeah, that's pretty low. I wondered about that myself. Fortunately I didn't get that here in Michigan, so I didn't have any false hopes. Although.....if I did have reason to believe that Nez was joining them, I just may have flown out there to catch it. That is...if I could find someone who would actually be willing to go with me!!!!!
From: Barry
Re: I no longer Like Davy
Hi,
With all do respect perhaps you were the one being rude. Davy does not have to be on at all times. He's human and perhaps he wanted to go to the bar and have a drink after the show. Davy does not have to be on at all times. I've met Davy three time and all three times he has been extremely nice to me. I met him on this tour after a show with Micky and Peter and all 3 guys were extremely nice. The key to this as with my other 2 meetings with Davy was they were all after shows where they were expected to be on. Davy does not have to be "on" after a show when he's hanging out by a bar.He took a photo with you and he didn't have to do that. As for what he did later with fans perhaps that was after his drink when he relaxed a little bit and was in the mood to be on again even though he didn't have to be.
Barry
From: Dan Lafferty
Yeah, that's pretty low. I wondered about that myself. Fortunately I didn't get that here in Michigan, so I didn't have any false hopes. Although.....if I did have reason to believe that Nez was joining them, I just may have flown out there to catch it. That is...if I could find someone who would actually be willing to go with me!!!!!
From: guitar tim
if anyone knows how to contact mike nesmith, pls ask him to PLEASE show up @ the monkees' show in san francisco, ca, sat, 18-aug, 9p; my boys & i saw this monkees tour earlier this year (in vegas) and they were fantastic!; mike would be icing on the cake; later, all
From: Dan Lafferty
Did anyone ever tally up how many of us are on here and all the fave songs? Don't leave us hangin'! I wanna know!
From: Dontwalkbutrun@aol.com
Dear Satschild, I'm so sorry you had a bad experience with Davy. The truth of the matter is, what your describing, that seems odd he would do that. He probably forgot to put on his showbiz smile. lol. Oh well. Please feel free to E-mail me, we can chat. Jaime on Longisland
From: suzannetigger
would be hard to tally up I imagine because there are many lurkers who rarely post I think. as far as fave songs, I think that since February almost every Monkee song ever done has been listed as somebody's favorite. Many folk's, myself included, have a different favorite song of the week or even day depending on mood and which album I've been listening too.
Sue
From: dontwalkbutrun@aol.com
Hi satschild73, I feel bad Davy was like that. I'm sure he is a good person but you caught him at a bad time.E-mail me. we can chat Jaime on Longisland
From: dave
Hey Everyone, I'm looking for old photos of the monkeemobile. Can anyone help. Thanks so much!
From: Jude
You guys should go to http://members.home.net/joesocean/ to hear a band that PETER TORK HIMSELF has listened to and dug. They're called Joe's Ocean and they're my 2nd fave band in the world!!! Thanks for coming to Washington next month Peter!!! We love you & Joe's Ocean loves you! LUV - Jude :)
From: Dan Lafferty
I've only been around here for a month or so. You guys may already know this about each other. But I was wondering where everyone lives, and how wide a range of age there is on this board.
I'm 23 years old and live in Macomb, Michigan (Detroit area).
Dan
From: Arjuna
Regency Park - outdoor amphitheatre (stage designed for symphony orchestra). No rain, so we got the full show. (I was in the heroic outdoor crowd at the Cleveland rain/thunder/lightning show...)
References below are to my Clearwater opening night review way back when...
Tues - 7/23: The show was tight. The banter is less rambling. They played straight through for about two hours, no intermission. They still appear to be having fun. Energy was great. Davy is hoarse. Davy's Broadway set is shortened. Mickey's Hendrix tribute is gone. "Shades of Gray" is gone. "It's nice to be with you" (title?) is gone. The accoustic set ("What am I doin hangin round") is gone, and that is a loss, indeed. It was my favorite moment on opening night; a wonderful Kingston Trio/CSN flavor...
The "boy band" Natural was not on the bill, and that was no loss at all (imho)...
The backup band is much stronger, and the sound mix has improved. The lead guitarist was terrific (is this the same guy?) I think everybody agrees the female sax player is superb.
In general, EVERYBODY seems to leave these concerts stunned by the completely satisfying musicianship and showmanship. This is a great evening's entertainment by any measure. Still seems like a private club though - tried conveying your experience to the uninitiated? ...So where is the television exposure?
From: Dan Lafferty
Ha. Yeah, good points. My favorite stays pretty consistent, though. Although I typically have to say "my favorite not counting Mike songs". His are so separate from the mainstream songs, so "stand-alone", that I can't lump them in with the rest. "Your Auntie Grizelda" is my fave Monkee song. But for Mike songs....either "Good Clean Fun" or "Nine Times Blue".
From: Anthony
Hey Hey All You Monkees Fans,
Check out my Monkees site. It has news, bios, my experiences, reviews, tour schedule, TV show guide, a career highlights page, a Monkees Poll, an alert Mailing List(news & updates), and much more! http://www.monkeesrule43.homestead.com/monkeesrule43.html
From: Leigh Angela
From: **Ashley**
Okay if you were just RP, then why did you get so defensive when my friend said she didn't believe it was really Davy?? Why ask me if I know who 9836 is if you're just RP? Why get so mad about the emails that 9836 sent out? If you're just RP, then it shouldn't be a problem.
Gleeb
From: davyhitmefirst
I'm 48. During the week I live in San Francisco, and most weekends I go to Lodi, CA (of John Fogarty fame, hence my email addy of stuckinlodi@hotmail.com) to help my elderly father out.
Peace- DHMF
From: Kelly
The show sure was good! It was a nice little venue and the boys sounded good. They were all extremely nice at the meet and greet. Davy took flowers and gave hugs. Anyone who was there know who that tall blonde with micky was?
From: Christi
LOL, If I could afford it, I would defiantely fly out there with ya! LOL
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From:
I know David the man the monkee off the stage. He is one of the nicest giving people out there. When David is off the stage he does not owe anyone a thing. By the kindness of his heart he did give this person a autograph and posed for a picture while he was at the bar during his OFF TIME. What else did this person expect? He was also tired and just wanted to hang out with the boys. Maybe the other people that he was talking to and signing autographs said something to him to make him laugh. If you no longer want to be his fan then don't. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU TRY just TRY to ask Peter Tork for an autograph once he is off the stage.
From: suzannetigger
I'm 42. I've loved the Monkees since I was 8 years old and of course had a big old crush on Davy way back then. I have since outgrown the crush but still enjoy him as a performer. I have no favorite Monkee as so many people do. I particularly enjoy Mike's music but almost view it as a seperate or guest appearance on the albums. It almost comes as a shock to me when I hear him do any kind of background vocals on other Monkee songs. I think my favorite singer for his voice and style would have to be Micky. He is so versatile. I hail from the Southerntier of NY just 3 miles from the PA border where the deer and black bear feast upon the raspberries in my back yard! welcome to the board Dan!
From: Kate
I was at the concert also. What a show they had put together. The music/dancing/showmanship, etc. was better than ever. However, Peter did not look well. Davy has aged superbly. And Mickey, well, I felt concerned about his puffiness. Being in medicine, I couldn't help notice it and the possible complications. ANyone want to talk about the concert? Demianovich@aol.com
From: davyhitmefirst
I can't find this thread right now, but Suzanne's reply was right on.
If memory serves me, a third Monkees season would have been before Laugh In or Sonny & Cher's show. The Smothers Brothers came and went several times (they kept getting kicked off the air for being too controversial - '60's network TV was not very progrssive over all, and there was no cable. I've often thought the Smothers Brothers thing may be why the POB didn't want to even discuss changing the third season format.)
Speaking of which, I was wondering if anybody had heard of a show that was on in '63-64 entitled "That Was the Week that Was". It features various folk and comedy performers, and aside from doing their usual bits, they did music and skits that commented on the social and political happenings of that particular week. It got kicked off the air for being too controversial, but I remember their show the week after the Kennedy assassination in particular - very moving.
Peace- DHMF
From: Mimi
It's probably a very obvious question, so don't make fun of me. LOL. Thanks!
From: Stacey
I was actually wondering the same thing myself! As for me, myself, personally :), I'm 15, livin' in New Mexico (only 4 hours from Santa Fe and Mike's house!! :):):)
I've liked the Monkees since I was 11 because I saw the episodes aired on Nick at Nite. (needless to say, I was freaking pissed off when they cancelled the show!! Fortunately, I taped the episodes that they DID show and watched them over and over and over and over...until I was lucky enough to get ALL the epsiodes on tape only about a month ago!!
From: suzyque
Primarily Mickey with Davy adding to
From: Ashley
I'm 14 and Michigan. When I first starting liking the Monkees, I didn't have a favorite. But now I think it's probably Mike.
Ashley
From: suzyque
OMG---I mean Micky.........can't believe I did that:-#
From: Christi-Miss Blue Dork Stick
I am 21 years old from West lafayette Indiana. Go Boilers! I have been a fan since age 6 and a bigger fan since about age 12. I'm glad someone else asked this question because I was wondering the same thing. I am glad to call you all fellow Monkee Friends!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: suzyque
OMG--------I can't BELIEVE I did that.......I mean Micky(no E) :-#
From: Dan Lafferty
Wow, Stacey! You have ALL the episodes? I'm so jealous!!!!!! I have about 20, I think.
From: Freedom's Child
Hi,
I was reading Davys new book and in the back he has a section called "Davy's Diary" where he tells of all the important things that happened to him (tv appearances, personal info..etc etc) and he mentions Sarah being in the movie "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and I was just wondering if anyone knows what part she played. I know she probably wasn't a main character but as they say Enquiring minds want to know...
dona nobis pacem, Freedoms Child
From: Dan Lafferty
Wow, that's so funny that you should say that about viewing Mike's songs as separate or extra. I made that same comment on another post on here just about an hour ago. I was mentioning how when I say what my favorite song is, I have to specify that it doesn't include Mike's songs....those are separate. They're very "stand-alone", in my opinion.
From: Deborah in Clearwater
The guys are in Florida these next three nights. Melbourne, Ft. Myers and Sarasota. Hope they don't run into any bad weather. Please post your concert experiences everyone.
From: Stacey
Yah, it seems that a lot of things were considered too contorversial in the 60s! Wasn't The Devil and Peter Tork kept off the air for that reason? I may have just made that up...but I'm pretty sure that's what I remember hearing. Oh but I love that episode!!! Mike is SOOO smart in the court room!! And I love the speech he gives about the music inside of you and...oh it's all too much!! And then they way Peter plays "I Wanna Be Free" on the harp...and you can tell he is so into his music...entirely too much beauty!!
Well, I guess that is my schpeil on that! :p Dig it! :)
From:
Check your local listings on TV, but Monkees clips and documentary are are on TV. If you have cable here are the shows:
Tonight on E! - Smashmouth (has video for I'm A Believer for those who have not seen it yet) I believe there is a quick flick of the Monkees also.
Monday @ 9:00 p.m. & Tuesday (A.M.) on E! - The Monkees
VH1 - Behind the Music - Neil Diamond (quick flick on how the Monkees made I'm A Believer a hit for Diamond)
If anyone else sees any more TV listings - post them!
From: Mandi
i'm 20 and from Wisconsin. Been a fan since i was five, and proud of it!
later
mandi
From: Erica
I haven't been here for a while, so I don't know if this has been posted or not. Does anyone know if Micky is still doing the Teen Idols concert in RI, or not? I've read that there is a Monkees concert in CA on August 25. I've also read that he is still going to be in RI. Does anyone know which concert is really happening? Erica
From: Leigh Angela
You have to buy the box set! I got mine for about $300, but they can be found for way cheaper nowadays.
From: Erica
Micky and Davy sing "I'm Gonna Buy Me a Dog."
From: Chris Coyle
Rhino is fine..my point was Rhino just does not have the money to promote an album like the majors do, or the players.
Chris
From: billruth@infi.net
ANY chance of Mike showing up at any California shows? Please e-mail billruth@infi.net
From: Chris Coyle
I never said Rhino is not a good place for the Monkees. Rhino is the only label that UNDERSTANDS The Monkees and their fans. The only problem is Rhino does not have the money or the players to promote like the majors do.
Speaking of Virgin, The Beach Boys along with Brian Wilson were close to signing a record deal back in the mid 90s. Vigin was going to give The Beach Boys anything they wanted as long as Brian produced. They didn't care what the out come was going to be, they just wanted the guys to record with Brian once more. Brian didn't want to do it..
Chris
From: mary mary
Don't be too hard on yourself or Davy-don't take it personally. I met Davy in New Jersey at Rowan University when he toured with the Brady Bunch-he signed autographs after the show. He looked beat and seemed really tired. I took pics with him & my Monkees concert buddy and she took one with me and Davy. I was really disappointed that in the pics he looked like he could have cared less-then I realized that he can't be "on" all the time and I can't controll the way the pics turn out. It was likely just my dumb luck that it turned out that way! He was nice enough though. I also was at AC on 7/21 for that concert-now I wish I hung around the bar that night for a new picture!
From: Chris Coyle
I never said Rhino has not been good for The Monkees. Rhino is the best label for The Monkees only because they understand their fans. My main point was that Rhino does not have the money or players to promote a new Monkees album like the majors would have. Not sure if that is good or bad..
As for Virgin, The Beach Boys along with Brian Wilson were very close in signing with the label back in the mid 90s. Virgin were willing to do anything for the band as long as they let Brian produce. Brian decided to do a solo album instead.
Chris
From: Tammy
Oh no!!!! I really wanted to go to that and i had planned to take my cousin who i converted to a Monkees fan and he has been begging me to see them! :( Gleeb, Tammy
From: Chris Coyle
Ok I've tried three times today to post to the below subject CHRIS COYLE, I'M SORRY from 2 differant computers, nothing is posting. This is a test to see if I can even post a new article.
Chris
From: RegionalGirl (Official DJ Forever)
i would like to know what the creatow of this message board did to get people to use it like this. I have a discussion forum and hardly anyone uses it! someone please tell me the secret!!! it would be most helpful!!! THANKS!
From: ruth
Hi i was reading you msg i think you right i am 21 and i am completely in love with davy and have been since i was 16.
From: krazy4kix
Micky
From: **Ashley**
I'm 15, almost 16, and I dwell in the borning little town of Lansing, MI.
Peace n Gleeb
From: **Ashley**
First of all, I'm not 9836. But I finally got the site up and here's the addie if you wanna check it out. I have all the convos up there too.
http://www22.brinkster.com/beachwooddrive/1334.html
gleeb
From: Mark T.
I'm going to go and disagree with the idea that Mike's songs are so holier than thou that they are beyond reproach and don't deserve to be listened next to a Monkees song. I mean, Mike's songs are good, some are great, but they certainly are listenable next to mostly any other Monkees track, besides the obvious lemons like "The Day We Fall in Love" or "Penny Music."
Does everyone believe "Writing Wrongs", "Magnolia Simms" and "Never Tell a Woman Yes" are better songs than "Randy Scouse Git" (Micky's own), "For Pete's Sake" (Peter's own) or even "You and I ('69)" (Davy's co-composition)????
I guess I just am not into elevating Mike over the other guys. I think if he had never been a Monkee, he probably would have achieved some success in some medium, however, never to the heights he did with the Monkees. No way! If Mike was such a genius songwriter/performer, his solo albums in the '70s would have set the charts on fire, something they certainly did not. Or, since commerical sales doesn't always denote quality, it would have been Mike credited today with the creation of country rock and not, say, the Eagles.
From: tracy rose
micky and davy. micky does the most singing and davy does a little talking in the song.
From: MONKEE fan
Who says I'm hiding my identity? I am a MONKEE fan. I just came to the board reading posts and when I came across the Monkees/Bee Gees thing, it surprised me to see how in the end it was Bee Gees only, and that's what made me ask.
At the beginning of the thread, yes you were all talking about comparisons of the Monkees and the Bee Gees. Now I've been reading "what song does Maurice sing?" and "do you have the new Bee Gees album" or whatever. No mention of the Monkees - which is what this board is all about. At least try and fit the Monkees in there since at the top of the board it does say "MONKEES DISCUSSION GROUP."
From: Fuzzy Italian
To Erica and Tammy, I really dislike giving out bad news, but more than likely Micky will be appearing at The Monkees concert and not the Teen Idols concert.
That happened to me back in May. I drove three hours one way; to buy my tickets to see Micky, in the Teen Idol tour. The concert was set for June 8th. in Sutton's Bay, MI. Tickets went on sale May 5th. I got there to buy my tickets and was told that Micky had cancelled his portion of the concert...I knew he would; if the Monkees toured this Summer. Do not go by Pollstar information. Because, the Teen Idol tour will still be in RI, so Pollstar will not take Micky off the list until they are notified differently. In fact, I was the one that notified Pollstar that Micky had cancelled out of the June date, I was suppose to attend. That following Monday they took him off. All I can say is call the venue the day before you buy the tickets. You may have to even wait until the day you actually buy the tickets, to find out if he will still be appearing. I personally was bummed that I didn't get to see Micky, but I understood. I did however get to see him with The Monkees in Sterling Heights in June. I'm still hopeful that I will get to see one of his solo shows someday. Good Luck ladies!
From: Leigh Angela
You need to get the box set! I got mine for $350 in 1995, but you can get them for much chaper.
From: Erica
Thanks for the advice Fuzzy. It's a free concert, and I'm planning on calling the venue a few days before the concert, so I know if he's playing there or not. Erica
From: Deborah in Clearwater
I won tickets to the house of blues Myrtle Beach concert July 5th!! I am so excited!! Just thought I would share this exciting news with yall'!!
From: ayesha
hi! I hope someone can help me out with these questions: are there any recordings of auntie's municipal court and Mary where Mike is singing the lead?? Micky and Davy did that eric carmen song "that's rock n roll" on a live tour in the seventies, was that ever released on any album? And finally I'd love to know is the monkees ever was in my home country -sweden thanx in advance/aye
From: Jennie
I agree!
From: MonkEShyn
Hi, all I'm 28 and in the northern part of NJ, about 5 minutes from NY. I've been a fan since the '86 tour and the MTV marathon. My fave is Peter. My favorite song (as of now) is "You and I"
From: cory
I think its airing was delayed over network concerns about "Salesman"'s drug references.
I've enjoyed this episode alot more in the years since I read Eric Lefcowitz's "The Monkees Tale" in which he asserts that the episode is a veiled telling of The Monkees' struggle with Kirschner (The Devil) for control of their own musical destiny. Watch it again with that perspective & it's a fascinating episode!
From: MonkEShyn
Thanks for the Monkees update. Always looking for the Monkees on the tube. Davy's showing on the "Brady Bunch" was on Nick at nite as Pop Up Brady- like pop up video-on 7/25 and they are repeating "My Two Dads" on USA @ 8:30 am. Need to tape all to see Davy's 2 episodes. Monkee love
From: cory
Minnesota. 32 years old.
From: Estrella
Apparently she was in the movie (credited as Sarah Lee Jones), she played a vampire (though I can't tell you which one, haven't seen the movie in a while).
From: Rocker
That has always been one of my favorite episodes. It's kind of scary in parts. But overall it's funny... Micky provides the comic relief in the courtroom. The "sell your soul to the devil in exchange for musical success" theme has been a part of popular music at least since blues performers like Robert Johnson in the 1930's, and continued with rock bands like Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest in the 1970's. I like that the Monkees tackled the issue on their show with hilarious and moving results.
From: cheafo
Anyone out there have the web address for Natural?
From: Rocker
That has always been one of my favorite episodes. It's kind of scary in parts. But overall it's funny... Micky provides the comic relief in the courtroom. The "sell your soul to the devil in exchange for musical success" theme has been a part of popular music at least since blues performers like Robert Johnson in the 1930's, and continued with rock bands like Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest in the 1970's. I like that the Monkees tackled the issue on their show with hilarious and moving results.
From: Estrella
www.naturalofficialsite.com
From: Rocker
That's always been one of my favorite episodes too! It was actually a little scary in parts, but Micky provided comic relief. The "sell your soul to the devil in exchange for musical fame" has been around in music at least since bluesmen like Robert Johnson in the 1930's. Later it resurfaced with bands like Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest. I like that the Monkees dealt with the issue on their show with hilarious and moving results.
From:
THE MONKEES FORT MYERS ,FLA. 7/27/01 116 MINUTES DIGITAL8 1 CAM transferred to VHS. Shot Left Center,SUPER CLOSE UPS.....Waist to Head close.Some wide stage,full band shots,steady.Great audio.Complete show.
Email thewho64@cs.com for more info.
From: Cr
Does anyone know if they are still going to the west coast in August?
From: Tina
So who was the tall blonde walking around with Micky after the Cary NC show? Now you've got me curious.
From: Cr
For those of you who have seen the show or have heard the live cd. There's a part in it when they mention the songwriters for the Monkees. One name that is mentioned is Sears & Roebuck. Does anyone know if this is true and what did they write?
From: Fuzzy Italian
I would assume that the tall blonde you saw with Micky, was his long time lady love Donna. There has been some questions raised, as to wheather they are still together. He took the picture of the two of them off of his website, just before the Summer portion of the tour began. I have never heard anything official so I would only guess that they are together, and that that was Donna you saw with him in Cary, N.C.
From: Cr
For those of you who have seen the show or have heard the live cd. There's a part in it when they mention the songwriters for the Monkees. One name that is mentioned is Sears & Roebuck. Does anyone know if this is true and what did they write?
From: douggaines@aol.com
We are trying to get tickets for tonights concert, but the venue telephone recording says they are closed until Monday. Ticketmaster and Tickets.com don't show the date at all. Does anyone know if the concert is cancelled? We are in Maitland and wanted to drive over tonight.
From: Cr
For those of you who have seen the show or have heard the live cd. There's a part in it when they mention the songwriters for the Monkees. One name that is mentioned is Sears & Roebuck. Does anyone know if this is true and what did they write?
From: cheafo
Estrella...thanks for the info.
From: cory
Two replies of mine from several hours ago haven't posted. I'm just checking to see if New Thread Postings do.
From: Tina
No, it wasn't that girl in his photo gallery on his website...
From: cory
Two replies of mine from several hours ago haven't posted. I'm just checking to see if New Thread Postings do.
From: Julianna Michelle (TheHighLlama)
Hey Fuzzy Italian!! You should move to the www.themonkees.com board! It's way better and I dig your opinions!
Peace Amanda
From: cory
Two replies of mine from several hours ago haven't posted. I'm just checking to see if New Thread Postings do.
From: Fuzzy Italian
Thanks for the invite! I'll have to go over there and lurk for awhile...see whats going on. I haven't posted too much on this board. It does get to be rather frustrating after awhile. I wrote a reply to someone and the post never came up...Oh well.
From: Estrella
Are you sure it's Peter *Tork*? I can't find anything on e-bay, except for a Peter *Lupus*. Just wondering.
From: Kim
Anyone know whether they'll be in Pennsylvania at all? If so, when? Thanks!
From: cory
Two replies of mine from several hours ago haven't posted. I'm just checking to see if New Thread Postings do.
From: Shelia
Has anyone out there been to any of the last few Monkee concerts in FLA? I have not seen anyone post on them.
From: cory
Two replies of mine from several hours ago haven't posted. I'm just checking to see if New Thread Postings do.
From: tammy
I went to a concet! love them missed Mike.
From: Teresa in Texas
WOW, Jennie, you sold me--I'll have to look for this one. I think it's great that there are so many people on this board who know so much about music and can point others to great stuff (even artists other than the Monkees). I don't see anything wrong with telling people to check out something new. And I've also noticed that the biggest critics are the ones that don't tell their names.
From: Marly
I saw the Ft. Myers and the Sarasota shows. Both shows were great, but the sound was better at the Sarasota show. Davy sang Is you is or is you ain't in Ft. Myers and he did the Oliver medley in Sarasota. Since it was Natural's last show with the Monkees, the crew and back-up band shot them with silly string. Then, at the end of the Monkees' set they got payback while the band was still playing after the Monkees went off. It looked like a lot of fun. I wish I had gone to the Melbourne show!
From: Teresa in Texas
It's also kind of an ironic humor that Peter mentions George Harrison as having written Long Title, because you know, George got into a lot of trouble in the early '70s for plagiarizing the tune "He's So Fine" for his song "My Sweet Lord."
From:
From: "Davy Jones Forever" <davyslady@y...> Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:56 am Subject: called & talked to Davy
hey everyone,
I just called David's cell phone, he answered and said that he was in a place where the signal wasn't too good and then I told him what I wanted with the interview (we couldn't hear eachother for the static) he told me that he was going to put his voice mail on and for me to call right back and leave him a detailed message about what I wanted and he would try and call back sometime when his phone was within range and wasn't so messed up. I did that and left a message for him saying that I would like to know if he would do an interview of about 10 questions give or take a few for DJ Forever and if so to call me when he wasn't busy. I will let you all know what happens. if there's anything that you are particularly interested in please send it to y E-Mail as that is all I will be checking within the next few days seeing as how I do not want to be online anymore than possible since I only have one phone line. im going to give him about a week or so. will let you all know more if anything happens!!!
even though all the static he still sounded SEXY!!!! and his voice message is even better, it just tells you where he is and where he will be heading within the next few days and then gives you the option of ending the call or leaving a message. I thought that was
really cool.
Sarah
From: Teresa in Texas
I'm 42 (can pass for younger) and I live in a suburb of Dallas. I will be vacationing in New Mexico this summer, so if I see Mike on the streets of Santa Fe, I'll ask him if he shouldn't be ---- (wherever the Monkees are performing that day). Nah, I wouldn't do that. I HAVE seen Michael Murphey in Taos, though, that was a thrill! Oh,yeah, my favorite Monkee is Micky.
From: Tammy
Could you find out if Davy is going to be appearing around New York (either solo or with the Monkees)? We are willing to drive to other states as well but the dates they are booking right now are a little out of our reach :) Gleeb, Tammy
From: Teresa in Texas
I do remember Laugh In coming on in early 1968, so the Monkees show's last season and Laugh In overlapped just a little. And, later Laugh In was on Monday nights, the Monkees' original night on tv.
From: Shari
Saw the show in Sarasota on Sat 7/28 and as expected it was FAB!!! My review would sound pretty much like everyone else's. The show was almost as good as the one in March in Clearwater. That one I think was a bit longer and I missed the sit down part of the show this time and 'Shades of Gray' :( but still they ROCK!! It was nice to see Mary again and Deborah. Nice to meet you Jan, Marissa and Marcia (Marcia-Marcia)My friend Jan had never been to one before and she was "pleasantly surprised". Unfortunately she had a real bad headache during the whole show so we didn't hang around outside after. Guys, tell me I didn't miss anything!!! Did they come out? Shari
From: Teresa in Texas
It's funny you should mention this episode, because just yesterday, my kids and I watched the video of this one. One of my children (don't want to embarrass them) and I had tears in our eyes after Mike's speech. I hadn't seen this one in a while, so it was like watching for the first time again. This really was one of the more literate scripts that they did (a spoof of The Devil and Daniel Webster).
From: jamie-in FL
Okay, You guys are not going to believe this, but I actually got a Backstage Pass! I was in the very front row, and the drummer, gave me and this girl a drum stick and slipped us both a pass. I am still in total shock! I just posted some(not all, yet) of my pictures on my site <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/retro/jam/">www.angelfire.com/retro/jam</a> What a concert! We even camcorded some of the songs...I was all worried about security before the show, and not once did I see a security guard! I cannot stress this enough, but I am sooooo in Love with the 3 horn players. Greg(one w/ the curly hair) remembered me from March! He is definitely my favorite. I talked to him a lot before the concert, and what a nice guy. I made the horn players sea shell necklaces, and Greg wore his the rest of the night.*Ahhhhh* I'm so in Love! If anybody is going to any of the later shows in August, and talks to the horn players, I would really like to know if he still has his necklace. hehehe...Okay, so much happened at this concert that I am just too tired to post it all right now. Peace~Jamie
From: stacey
Hi everybody! I'm 34 and have been a fan since I was 19. I actually saw them during their 20th anniversary tour - went to the convention in L.A. where Micky and Davy came and answered our questions! (We wrote our questions down on cards) and Micky answered mine!!!! I have this convention on VHS video. The picture isn't 100% great, but still a prized possesion of mine. (I was 19 at the time of this convention.) Over the years I have sorta faded away from the Monkeemania until two weeks ago when they came to Lincoln. I decided to go more out of curiosity. Since then, my Monkee-madness has been rejuvenated and I am so eager to meet new friends. If anyone wants to write me, I would love to hear from you! staceyhelget@netzero.net
Go Monkees!!! And I hope all you "younger" generation folks have as much fun as I did! They are wonderful! And so are all of us fans! :)
From: Twiggy Git
The chick was most likely donna, as of the westbury show on july 15 they were together, he dedicated i'm a believer to "my girlfriend donna" so i'm guessing that was the chick
From: Cindy
First generation Monkee fan, 46 years old and from Arizona...the armpit of the world! LOL
Although they DID come to Phoenix this year the first time around!
From: JILL
MY HUSBAND AND I WENT TO THE CONCERT IN SARASOTA ON SAT NIGHT AND IT WAS GREAT. IT'S THE 2ND ONE WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR AND LOVED BOTH. MICKY ARRIVED ALONE IN A (RENTAL?) CAR AND LEFT BY HIMSELF IN THE SAME CAR. HE WAVED HELLO AND GOOD-BYE, BUT DID NOT SIGN ANY AUTOGRAPHS.
From: Cindy
First generation Monkee fan, 46 years old and from Arizona...the armpit of the world! LOL
Although they DID come to Phoenix this year the first time around!
From: Carol 7/30/01
I loved The MOnkees Show in Melbourne. I thought it was great. I especially loved the ending when they all did the monkee walk and Peter left and came back out and then they all started to chase him. I thought the songs were all great,of course in my eye they always will br great.
From: Cindy
First generation Monkee fan, 46 years old and from Arizona...the armpit of the world! LOL
Although they DID come to Phoenix this year the first time around!
From: **Ashley**
Anyone going to the Bensenville show?
gleeb
From: Mark J.
I'm 26 and live in suburban Chicago. A few years back, there was an add for a Chicago-based Monkees cover band looking for a drummer & keyboard player. (If ONLY I had kept up with my piano lessons...) I've been teaching myself guitar for a few years, though (practicing several Monkees tunes, of course!)
Apples, Peaches, Bananas, and Pears, Mark J.
From: Cheryl
I'm trying to go to the Il show, but I'm having a hard time trying to get any information on it. Such as were to get the tickets or where they will be playing.
From:
That's always been one of my favorite episodes too! It was actually a little scary in parts, but Micky provided comic relief. The "sell your soul to the devil in exchange for musical fame" idea has been around in music at least since bluesmen like Robert Johnson in the 1930's. Later it resurfaced with bands like Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest. I like that the Monkees dealt with the issue on their show with hilarious and moving results.
From: DF
The Bensenville show is at a place called the Redmond Recreation Complex. It is outdoors and I believe it's free. I work for the sound company that is working there that night. It's gonna be great and I'm very excited.
From: jamie
I have only been posting here for about a week now, but I have been checking out this site for concert dates since last October. I never really noticed this message board. Well, anyways, I am 17 and live in Gainesville, FL. I really got into the Monkees when I saw reruns on Screen Gems Network last summer. I also play guitar and so the Monkees music just really clicked for me. I love their humor and their music.
From:
June 30, IC Light Amphitheatre, Pittsburgh, PA, 412-232-6200 (this got changed to a fair, I think) July 1, Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA, 800-863-3336,www.bjc.psu.edu
These *were* the two dates that the 3kees have already played. If you are on the alert list (just go to the front page here at monkees.net and sign up for it if you are not), you will get news of the shows that way.
From: Mark J.
Off the top of my head, Maurice sang lead on Closer Than Close, It's My Neighborhood, Omega Man (an Alan Parsons-sounding tune from '93), a bit of the '60s/'70s stuff, but Barry pretty much did all the "disco" hits. Maurice is much like the PETER of the group -- a good lead singer who's primarily a musician/back-up singer. (There -- another comparison!)
Apples, Peaches, Bananas, and Pears, Mark J.
From: Donna
What was the girl wearing? Just wondering because I was at the Cary, NC show and apparently I missed this. *Grin* It probably in all likelihood may have just been a friend of his. :)
*back to lurkdom* Donna
From: cr
From: **Ashley**
i guess you just call the place to get the tickets. bensenville.il.us has the number... they go on sale on the 6th and they're only $10. i dunno if it'll ever be listed on ticketmaster but i guess you just call to order them.
gleeb
From: Forever young
I am a older fan in my mid 40-s look very good people say I look 10 years younger. I get hit on by younger men all the time. I love it. I am divorced lived my life and I am not looking for any type of relationship for the long run. I think now that we are in the year 2001 it works both ways. Some of us older women adore younger men. I like them 30 and up. We are experienced know how to please a man and can teach even the old men like the Monkees a few things. I believe the Monkees, like other older men have this ego thing going and being with younger women just to play around with makes them feel younger. But it never lasts. Look at Peter and David their relationships they went down the drain because their younger girlfriends wanted something more like marriage. These men have been there and done it. As for us older women we know what we want and marriage is not one of them. I think what works for the older men works for us older women and we can give the younger girls a run for their money because we can TALK and have a interesting conversation with these older men. As long as everyone is happy that is all that counts. Age does matter if you are with an older man and he has been divorced 2 or 3 times and he no longer wants to get married then the younger women have to go elsewhere.
From:
Brad is respected and he doesn't pass around lies and half truths. It was by word of mouth.
From: Deborah in Clearwater
I won a pair of tickets for the July 5th show at the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach. I am so excited!!!
From:
Because Brad has a good reputation. And is respectable.
From: Chris Cruz
I heard somewhere that during this current tour, the guys were supposed to release a live version of "Daydream Believer"? Anybody know where that's going?
From:
Are you going? I'm still confused more as ever. I went down to the location It is a sports complex located in a park, so I would have to imagine that it is free. But I could not see them playing there. They have volleyball, basketball court and a SMALL little league stadium. The city currently has a music in the park series this summer, and I thought they might play at that, but it is a few miles from the location. Maybe they are playing on the grass and are bringing the stage with them?????
From: Christi
Does anyone from around the Sterling Heights/Detroit area have any suggestions on where to get a hotel room? Is there hotels right near the park? Just wondering.....
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Cheryl
I forgot to put my name in the above post.
From: MickysMonkee
well, i guess i asked the question in the subject lol
anyway, the other florida dates are on sale but the sarasota show isnt:( do any of you guys have any info on it?
thanks:)
From: **Ashley**
I'm going if I get a ride. LoL
From: Steph
Yeah, it was a little joke (about _ big) :)
Peter sometimes calls himself "George Harrison" - he does it with his SSB shows too. Thanks DHMF!!! And thanks to anyone that visited our humble little "pad" :)
Big Smiles & Monkee Hugs for all!!! Steph
From: Cheryl
Where do you live?
From: Steph
I'm 22 and I hail from good ol' CT. I'm a huge Tork-a-holic and I've been a Monkees fan since age 3. BTW- to DHMF- That is one of my fav CCR songs :)
~~Steph
Today's fav song: Oh My,My...or Auntie's Municipal Court...or Tear The Top...
From: ClarkSV@compaq.net
Yes I would be very interesting in your interview with David. Thanks,
From: thunder346@aol.com
Micky stated the phrase, "Love is the ultimite trip!" in one of the original episodes. My friend and I have a disagreement. She says it was a line in the plot of one of the episodes but I say it was extra in one of the add-ons (extra minute). I have all but 4 episodes on tape; if I could get an episode name it would be a tremendous help to me! Help me win this bet!!!!!
From: me of course lol names ashley
Hey all. Just want to write that I am Davy Jones' niece and if ya don't believe it's alright ok you don't have to I'm not forcing you or nothing. But uhh if you would like to know anything e-mail me or im me at Littlegirl52186@aol.com k umm here is more info about me. I had his eyebrows then i plucked because honestly i don't need eyebrows that big (thank you uncle dave if i ever need hair i'll use my eyebrows) and i have his accent its kind of fading though cause i live in california. Uhh talk to me whenever. I think this site is cute. I'm gonna go alright bye! ASH
From: thunder346@aol.com
Micky stated the phrase, "Love is the ultimite trip!" in one of the original episodes. My friend and I have a disagreement. She says it was a line in the plot of one of the episodes but I say it was extra in one of the add-ons (extra minute). I have all but 4 episodes on tape; if I could get an episode name it would be a tremendous help to me! Help me win this bet!!!!!
From: me of course lol names ashley
Hey all. Just want to write that I am Davy Jones' niece and if ya don't believe it's alright ok you don't have to I'm not forcing you or nothing. But uhh if you would like to know anything e-mail me or im me at Littlegirl52186@aol.com k umm here is more info about me. I had his eyebrows then i plucked because honestly i don't need eyebrows that big (thank you uncle dave if i ever need hair i'll use my eyebrows) and i have his accent its kind of fading though cause i live in california. Uhh talk to me whenever. I think this site is cute. I'm gonna go alright bye! ASH
From: thunder346@aol.com
Micky stated the phrase, "Love is the ultimite trip!" in one of the original episodes. My friend and I have a disagreement. She says it was a line in the plot of one of the episodes but I say it was extra in one of the add-ons (extra minute). I have all but 4 episodes on tape; if I could get an episode name it would be a tremendous help to me! Help me win this bet!!!!!
From: curious???
Hi...I'm new to this board. I am a big monkees fan and have seen them in concert, unfortunately, only 2 times. I was reading through some old posts and came across one from a girl who said she was "used" and I cant seem to find the firt post she made "attention monkees discussion community" about her bad experience with one of the monkees. I was just curious about what happened and wondered if anyone can clue me in.....If so please email me mirandagem@aol.com thanks Im not gonna pass any judgement. Just curious is all
From: thunder346@aol.com
Mickey was my fave ever since I was 10. Now that I'm 35 and going to see him next week, I'm even more a fan. I love how much he does for kids: his kid's albums, the proceeds from his paintings, etc. I'm going to see them in concert next week and I ended up with crappy seats; I'm so pissed. What can I do to get his attention?
From: thunder346@aol.com
When I went the the Palace Theater in Myrtle Beach, SC to the Monkees concert, the most amazing thing happened!!! Mickey knelt down and shook my hand!!!! I'll never forget it as long as I live. Unfortunately, I had my camara with me for closeups and my friend's camera, (a disposable) had a pinhole in it. I will pay ANYTHING for the pic of Micky and me at the concert in Myrtle Beach, SC 1996. Reply via personal e-mail if you wish!
From: thunder346@aol.com
When I went the the Palace Theater in Myrtle Beach, SC to the Monkees concert, the most amazing thing happened!!! Mickey knelt down and shook my hand!!!! I'll never forget it as long as I live. Unfortunately, I had my camara with me for closeups and my friend's camera, (a disposable) had a pinhole in it. I will pay ANYTHING for the pic of Micky and me at the concert in Myrtle Beach, SC 1996. Reply via personal e-mail if you wish!
From: Kathy
I'm 50! Shocks even me! Been a fan since the start. Add my dughter to the list ... she is 25 ... and start our own 3rd generation [my 2&3 yr old grandchildren] We are in NW Indiana.
From: Lhc(David)
I'm 39 years old and have been a Monkees fan since it started back in 1966.I remember bugging my family every night asking them if the Monkees were on that night.I guess when you're 6 a week is a long time.By the way I'm from New York's Long Island.
From: Kestra
Greetings from western MA!
I have loved the monkees since 1986, when MTV ran the 24hour monkee-a-thon. My dad surprised me with tickets to my very first concert in hartford, ct. I am now 26 and going to see them at the Pines on July 19th. It will be my 3rd time seeing them, if only I had friends that didn't think I was off my rocker<by liking "some old foggies"> I would be making plans to see them in a few of the other places they will be.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
"The past is a part of you, no matter how hard you try to reject it." Kolopak to young Chakotay Tattoo ST:Voyager
From: Kestra
Greetings from western MA!
I have loved the monkees since 1986, when MTV ran the 24hour monkee-a-thon. My dad surprised me with tickets to my very first concert in hartford, ct. I am now 26 and going to see them at the Pines on July 19th. It will be my 3rd time seeing them, if only I had friends that didn't think I was off my rocker<by liking "some old foggies"> I would be making plans to see them in a few of the other places they will be.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
"The past is a part of you, no matter how hard you try to reject it." Kolopak to young Chakotay Tattoo ST:Voyager
From: Kestra
Greetings from western MA!
I have loved the monkees since 1986, when MTV ran the 24hour monkee-a-thon. My dad surprised me with tickets to my very first concert in hartford, ct. I am now 26 and going to see them at the Pines on July 19th. It will be my 3rd time seeing them, if only I had friends that didn't think I was off my rocker<by liking "some old foggies"> I would be making plans to see them in a few of the other places they will be.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
"The past is a part of you, no matter how hard you try to reject it." Kolopak to young Chakotay Tattoo ST:Voyager
From: brad@monkees.net
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From: Monkeescott
Hi Thunder,
The episode that is on is Monstrous Monkee Mash. It is indeed an extra addon, where he and mike are talking about buttons each are wearing. Mikes is Save the Texas Prarie Chicken. Scott
From: Monkeescott
Hi all.. just wanted all to know that my new grandson was born yesterday. He was a premie, and is having a few blood sugar problems, so anyone out there who will, PLEASE say a prayer for little Dylan, and his parents. I know this is not Monkee related, but it is kinda cause i am a monkeemaniac, and you are all my monkeefamily!!!Anyway..thanx...Scott
From: Ree
Congratulations Grandpa!
My thoughts and prayers go out to your new grandson and your family. Blood sugar problems run heavy in my family, so I know where you are coming from, but with the medical break threws, it's amazing what can be done. Best wishes for little one.
Ree
From:
Can anyone translate the Japanese on Peter's guitar strap?
From: Ree
When I turned on the TV this morning, the CBS Saturday Early Show mentioned the Monkees Summer Tour again, along with other groups that will be touring this summer.
From: Chris Coyle
Gang,
You have to check out this review page for the works of Mike Nesmith. It's funny as hell!!! Hey Hey He’s A Pompous Ass
Here are some samples
The Wichita Train Whistle Sings
Well, you won’t get anywhere near as much out of them as the true Papa Ness fan, because presented like this, they all kinda sound the same. I think he was trying to create a Dixieland Jazz feel with the songs, but it sounds more like a poorly trained high school marching band (and banjo) demolishing a bunch of previously recognizable tunes. Rollicking, blowy, fun, usually out of tune and occasionally meandering so far away from interestingness, you wonder if Mike left the studio to take a poop or something.
And The Hits Just Keep On Coming
Certainly they are the two highlights of the Moody Blues songwriting combo, but for some reason without the rest of the band, they’re just BLAND. Still, it’s a darn treat to be able to enjoy an entire Nike Mesmith album without happening across one of those atrocious bebop bouncy fast-moving dirtcrap chuggers.
The Prison
In fact, the CD is billed as "a book with a soundtrack." I skimmed the book - it appears to be some dipshit little allegory about escaping from prison and realizing that freedom is scarier than imprisonment or some such puerile De La Vega-esque crap. But the music is nice!
The Garden
Oh yay! It’s another book from the literary genius who penned “Papa Gene’s Blues”! This one doesn’t even have lyrics. You’re just supposed to treat the instrumental music as a soundtrack to the little book that comes with it.
Go check it out
http://www.geocities.com/markprindle/nesmith.htm
Chris
From: Ree
Just wondering for those who have attended prior venues, do you have any pictures that you would like to share with us. I've checked the "New Stuff" section and found nothing new at this time. Viewing others pictures of the shows are very enjoyable.
From: Chris Coyle
It's a joke!
LOL
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
I don't care much for those Nez songs you mentioned Mark. I do think, as far as songs go, Randy and Pete's Sake are better songs. But you have to admit, Mike is a better songwriter and those 3 songs you listed may not be the most catchy of hooks, but the lyrical content is far above anything Davy, Micky, or Peter could write. The lyrical content of "Never Tell a Woman Yes" is almost of Dylan stature. I mean Christ, the song has you dizzy by the time that twist comes at the end.
As far as the lyrics go, I think Micky's songs are probably the closet of equal quality to Mikes. Davy writes lyrics anyone could write, most of "You and I" was written by Chadwick, not Davy. Peter's are sometimes too simple (I'm Getting In, Run Away From Life), but Peter DOES write some good songs (all you Tork fans stand back), not saying that is what makes a song bad, I just feel Mike's chord voicing and lyrics are quite unique. I don't like everything he writes, but he's proven he can write in more then one type of genre, be it folk, pop, country, rock, new wave or new age. Mike has certainly grown as a songwriter. He WAS the best songwriter of the four guys, his track record has proven that. He already had a million seller before he joined The Monkees and he had them when he left The Monkees.
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Hi from Maine..31 years of age and still going strong!!
Been a fan since 1981 and still supporting the guys. Been to too many shows to count and have 3 more coming this summer.
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
I don't know of any single release of a live track of "Daydream Believer". There is a live CD you will find at the shows for sale that was recorded in Vegas last March. Maybe you're mistaking the new re-recorded version of "Daydream Believer", "Stepping Stone" and "Valleri" Micky, Davy and Peter recorded down in Orlando Fl back in February. Those have gone to boy band heaven!
Chris
From: Teresa in Texas
Many congrats, Deborah!!!
From: Teresa in Texas
Many many healing and helping thoughts and vibes your way, Monkeescott!!
From: Chris Coyle
If you're linking from an old bookmark here, Brad has once again changed the lay out of the board. Go re-link through the home page.. geez!
Chris
From: brad@monkees.net
This board had some posting problems in Friday, but they have cleared up, so nothing is going to change here for the moment, thanks!
brad
From: Steph
Congrats Deborah!!
From: Steph
Congrats Monkeescott!!! I'll keep you and your family in my prayers :)
MonkeeHugs {{{{{}}}}} Steph
From: just-ice
i had a friend who was going to go to the georgia concert, but it was canceled. when he called the venue to see what was up, the lady who he talked to said that the reason the concert was cancelled was because davy is leaving for europe that very day. so, though this is a highly unreliable source, i highly doubt that there is going to be a west coast tour (also because shoe suede blues has concert dates in august to play at some fairs in august.) however, the woman in georgia also said that the monkees were sorry they had to cancel, but they would try and make it back on their next tour. i dunno if it was a joke or what, but thought i'd pass it on to you guys...
From: just-ice
congrats grandpa! i truly am sorry to hear about the problems your little one is having. hopefully our thoughts and prayers will be just the monkee medicine he needs to get better :) let us know how he's doing.
lotsa luv for the little guy, just-ice
From: cory
For those interested, someone is auctioning off a photo of Davy mooning a photographer. He's next to a clothed Micky & Peter and it looks like it was taken in the 70's!?
Two odd questions: Why have I now seen Davy's ass twice, and, even stranger: why has the bidding on this item almost reached (if my memory serves me) FIFTY DOLLARS!?
I guess there is a market for it, but it's just another reason why Mike is my favorite Monkee.
From: cory
Yeah, it's the full name of the Sears department store chain. The joke is like saying, "Boyce & Hart, Goffin & King, Head & Shoulders" - just nonsense (and part of Monkee stage patter for years).
From: Mark T.
28, Delaware, fan since 1986....been to many concerts!
From: Mark T.
Chris, what is this million seller Mike had before the Monkees???? This is news to me. Are you talking about "Different Drum" for Linda Ronstandt? I think that was released in '67 though. Do tell!
From: Dan Lafferty
Congrats a million times over. We'll be thinking of him. He has a great name, by the way!!!
Take care.
Dan
From: Dan Lafferty
Congrats a million times over. We'll be thinking of him. He has a great name, by the way!!!
Take care.
Dan
From: Dan Lafferty
Hee hee...Yeah, I being from the Detroit area, I hear ya. Isn't Lansing just the most embarrasingly unimportant capital in the whole country? It's a shame.
From: Dan Lafferty
I actually do and always will credit Mike with the creation of country rock, or at least...if not him personally, then the situation that he was in. A country songwriter in a pop band....country rock was the inevitable creative compromise.
I do have to stick with him being a far greater talent than any of the others. His were creations all their own, uninfluenced by the Beatles or any other popular band of the time. There was nothing else like "St. Matthew" or even "Sweet Young Thing", while, even songs as good as the ones you mention were clearly responses to other bands of the time.
From: Dan Lafferty
I'm not sure anyone said that Mike's songs were too good to stand next to the other Monkees songs. It's simply that there is a clear difference. You can remove Mike's songs and you still have a solid group of great songs. But on the other hand, Mike's songs alone are a solid group of songs as well. And these were HIS creations, whereas, much as I hate to say it...the majority of the rest of the really great songs were written by non-Monkees. Before anyone jumps at that, understand that I said "the majority". Clearly there were exceptions, such as "Randy Scouse Git" and "For Pete's Sake", but these were occasional gems. Mike was constantly cranking out brilliant pieces for each album.
From: Mary
Hi Jamie,
I'm 36 been a fan since '76 and live in Ocala, Fl. Commuted to and graduated from U of F. GO GATORS! Glad to know there's another local Monkee fan!
Mary
From: suzannetigger
Chris what was the name of the song that Mike did before the Monkees that was a million dollar seller? I knew he had recorded before the Monkees but for some reason I thought he was basically an unknown prior to joining the Monkees. Got my hit's keep coming Cd today am enjoying it, husband really likes it. Of course he's 11 years older than I and I think he likes Nez's songs best. At least those are the songs he knows some of the words to when I force him to listen to my Monkee tapes in the car.
From: suzannetigger
lol someone must want Davy's ass real bad to bid $50 bucks for and and no it's not me!!!
From: suzannetigger
lol someone must want Davy's ass real bad to bid $50 bucks for and and no it's not me!!!
From: MonkEShyn
I'm new at posting(I've just joined the 21st century with a new computer :) )But I've been a fan since the MTV showings in the 80's. My fave Monkee is Peter. I'm in Northern NJ and JUST GOT 5TH ROW TIX IN AC!!!! Yes! I also know my sorority sister is a fan. Was pretty mad when, not only did I meet Peter but also got a hug.
From: Mark T.
Can we assume at this point that there will be no West Coast portion of the summer tour? It's nearing July now and there are no dates for any place out West, which were supposed to take place in August.
Wishful thinking here, but could it be true that an album is being recorded instead of going out West in August? Hmmmmm, nah! ;-) We'll see.
From: Kestra
Greetings,
Hopefully when I see the boys on 7/19, i will have the ditigal camera...ok, so i do have to learn how to use it adn upload, but when i do, there should be pics.
Alwaysforever, Kestra
"May the Great Bird of the Galaxy bless your planet!" Sulu to Rand, on-air use of Gene Roddenberry's nickname The Man Trap ST:TOS
From: Estrella
It was filmed on the set of "Monstrous Monkee Mash", but tacked onto the end of "Monkees On The Wheel".
From: Estrella
It was filmed on the set of "Monstrous Monkee Mash", but tacked onto the end of "Monkees On The Wheel".
From: Ree
While at the pool today (when there was a crack of sunshine for a brief moment - it has been raining almost every day) a group of friends and I were listening to the radio passing the time. It occurred to me that it would be nice if the fans would call in their favorite Monkees song to their local stations. I had my cell phone with me and we all took turns calling in. Four out of Five requests were played for us. It was great! The DJ must of been a Monkees' fan also. He mentioned he was getting quite a few requests for the Monkees today. I guess they keep track of those requests?
Any how, contact your local stations and get your requests in. It's fun and it supports the Monkees and their tour!
From: Ree
40, Kentucky, fan from the 60's. Had a great opportunity meeting and talking to Peter, Micky and Davy on several occassions this year. No backstage pass either. Met them on the street, hotel and parking lot by chance in Columbus, Lexington concerts, and in Cincinnati, Davy's book signing in Sept. 2000.
From: gv
There are better part of anatomy to look at than someone's butt. Which is why, although I've drooled over pictures of each of the Monkees, when I saw that photo, I dropped it like a hot potato. After a couple of seconds of total shock during which I didn't comprehend what I was looking at, that is.
From: gv
I'm a fan who sees the TV characters as distinctly different from the real life Monkees, and I used to call them "the TV character Monkees" to differentiate, but in the last several months, I've started using the term TeleMonkees with my friends, which is much catchier. It's after another TV quartet who luv each other very much, the TeleTubbies. I guess the extent to which you see the TV characters as separate from the same-named actors who played them depends on how you interpret the characters. I know from scanning Monkee fanfic lately that other fans see the TeleMonkees a lot differently than I do! I don't want to get into how I see them (it's pretty bizarre and I know not what the people behind the show had in mind), but I think it works positively all around to diffentiate between character and actor. After all, as sweet and lovable as TV Peter is is, I'm sure real life Peter Tork enjoys being recognized as a much more learned man than his naive TV character.
From: leigh angela
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From: Ashley
I was just about to call the local oldies station in Detroit, because every Saturday they have a request party thing, but right before I got a chance to call, they played Steppin' Stone. I figured they wouldn't play another Monkees song so close to that one. Maybe I'll call any way.lol
Ashley
From: Christi
I know in Indianapolis the radio station gold 104.5 has a car phone request thing every day from 5-6. I like to call all the time and they will usually play what you request. On the way to the last Monkees concert I went to, we calle dand told them we were on our way to the Monkees show and they even had an intro of Peter Tork talking about the station and the mOnkees. It was cool!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork sticks Christi
From: Julianna Michelle
I'm so happy for you monkeescott! Little Dylan will be in my prayers! God is love!
Your Monkee-sis, Julianna Michelle
From: Julianna Michelle
I'm so happy for you monkeescott! Little Dylan will be in my prayers! God is love!
Your Monkee-sis, Julianna Michelle
From: monkeedoodle
Hi!!
Thanks for signing my guest book on my site!! I sent your package off Thursday, June 21!! I went ahead and sent 2 8x10's of Davy just in case!! One for you and one for me! But if you can't get them signed, that's cool too!! At least we'll have a big pic of Davy in his PJ's ...LOL!!
Peace,
'Manda
From: monkeedoodle
I'm reading this late because we just got home from Alabama, but YAY!!! Congrats to you and your family Scott! I'll certainly be praying for your new grandson's health!
Peace,
'Manda
From: vixen@monkeeschat.com
I have an autographed photo of Davy's arse. I should auction it <g>
He gave me the oddest look when I asked him to sign it, but someone dared me to :-)
From: Kalikogurlfriend
Hi out there!!! I am so excited I am going to see the guys at State College on July 1st & I am wondering if anyone knows anything about what the guys are doing that day for publicity & such. I saw them at Turning Stone Casino in Verona in March. I am moving to PA next week & whats the 1st thing I am doing going to the show, but because I don't live there I don't know. Thanx & I hope to see yas there! Kimberly K
From: Barry
Hi all,
I just finished listening to some of my Monkees CDs and was wondering if anyone likes any alternate versions of the Monkees' songs as opposed to the released versions. For example, I like "Can You Dig It?" with Peter on lead vocals as opposed to Micky. I also like Mike's lead vocals on "The Girl I Knew Somewhere" as opposed to Micky's lead vocals. Any thoughts?
Barry
From: suzannetigger
Hi I'm going to that concert too. but I live too far away to hear anything they might be doing publicity wise. I hope I can find directions I can't seem to get my streets and trips to locate the state college. Keeps taking me to NY!
From: Chris Coyle
I hate to see our fellow fans on the West Coast miss out on this tour. I still hold hopes you guys will get dates very soon. I do have to say, it is strange Fishof doesn't have them nailed down yet. But again, we're dealing with David Fishof....
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
You're right about Differant Drum, but he had a publishing deal anyway and 2 songs recorded outside his Monkees work. The only reason the other 3 began to write was because Mike was making so much more money then they were. So it wasn't such a creative origin Micky , Davy and Peter started to write (Peter did have a hand in writing Pete's Sake before The Monkees BTW), it was greed..
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Dan,
This is completely how I feel. You could put all of Mike's song on one cd set and it would be an incredable listen as well as an creative look at one of the under-rated artists of all time. I know all the top-heavy-mojos on the Beach Boys SMiLE brd think Nesmith is GOD LOL...
But anyway, let's take all the songs the other three Monkees wrote put them on a CD, then take the same amount of songs Nesmith wrote and put them on a CD. Then we can do a side by side comparing.. I don't know, "If I knew", "Rosemarie", " Changes" and "Merry Go Around" up against "St, Matthew", "While I Cry", "Listen To The Band" and "Circle Sky" ?
Did you ever notice that on the 4th disc of the Music Box almost every other song is a Nesmith song. That disc is my fave of the whole set..could it be because...nah...
Who ever thought of putting the word "Prism" in a song anyway...
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
The main reason Mike was cranking out good stuff each album is because he was a songwriter first..there is a difference. Just because Ringo Starr can play 3 chords on the guitar, and John and Paul encourage him to write a song or two, does not make him a GREAT SONGWRITER. Yeah he can write one "Octopus's Garden" in his life but he's a hell of a long way from a Lennon/McCartney.
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Barry,
What a cool post..sure I like some alt. versions better then the original versions that made it on the albums. I like the TV version of "I'll Be Back Up On My Feet" better then the over produced version on "Birds..." I don't like much of the production work Jeff Barry did, but this one has a nice pop feeling, and Micky's vocal is cool.
I like the folk rock version of "I Wanna Be Free". I hate the slow version found on "The Monkees". The mix found of the former on "Music Box" is the best!
I like the alt vocal version of "Circle Sky" better then the vocal on "Head".
I'm a toss up over the version of "And You Just May Be The One" found on ML2 and the "HQ" version. Both are too cool..
I do love Micky's version of "The Girl I Knew Somewhere" over Mike's version. It's my fave Monkees record! Only Micky Dolenz could sing that song. It's in a differant key by the way then Mikes.
Chris
From: Deborah in Clearwater
They went on sale for Van Wenzel show July28th on May 9th cause that is when i Bought my tickets.
From: Deborah in Clearwater
They went on sale for Van Wenzel show July28th on May 9th cause that is when i Bought my tickets.
From: Chris Coyle
Thanks Just-Ice for the info..still hoping our fellow West Coast friends will see them in August or September.
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Nope it's just a mail order LP set that was cashing in on the DJBH tour and the fact the TV show was back on as re-runs. Nothing to do with DJBH as a group. It was a Monkees hits package, quite rare today.
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Oh just read you post Cory, thanks for the kind words.
Chris
From: Mark T.
I'll go for Micky's vocal on "The Girl I Knew Somewhere" over Mike's vocal. Like Chris, this is my favorite Monkees song (tied with "PVS").
I prefer Micky's lead on "Can You Dig It" much more than Peter's. It's very hard for me to go against Micky as the lead singer. His voice is just that good.
As for some of the others, I basically agree with Chris. I'd take the fast version of "I Wanna Be Free" any day, and the alt version of "Circle Sky" found on ML3 is superior to the studio version on the HEAD soundtrack.
As for "I'll Be Back Up on My Feet", that's a tough one for me. I like both versions in their own way. I do prefer, however, the HEADQUARTERS version of "You Just May Be The One."
I prefer the BIRDS version of "Valleri" over the original take (but not by much!). Even the alt version of "Hold On Girl" from ML2 is superior to the MORE OF version in my opinion.
How about "Goin' Down"?? The alt version found on PISCES is way superior than the single version, I think! Take another close listen. There's just a little more soul in Micky's voice on the alt take. I'll also go for the alt version of "Nine Times Blue" over the released take. And of course, the original "Mommy and Daddy" beats the PRESENT version hands down.
From: Mark T.
The Monkees are like the TeleTubbies? OH, somebody pass a tissue, I think I'm going to cry (or scream).
From: Chris Coyle
Great choices Mark, tell you the truth I hate VALLERI anyway you slice it!
Chris
From: Mark T.
Chris, I'm not a big fan of "Valleri" either, except when it's been done in concert on the last couple of tours. I think it totally rocks out in a live setting...it's exciting live, I guess.
From: METALMADEN
I don't know if anyone remembers who Paul Mazursky is, but he was a writer on the Monkees TV show. He wrote and starred in the pilot episode (he was the reporter on the street). Anyway, I don't know if anyone watches the HBO series The Sopranos (I am die hard fan of that too!), but if you watch the series he played a character on there called Sunshine. On the next to the last episode of the third season, his character ends up getting shot in a hold up of a cardgame done by Jackie Aprile, Jr. (You have to watch the show from practically the beginning to know what I am talking about.) If you want to find out more, go to hbo.com and click on The Sopranos. Then click on the episode guide and look for season three. Believe me, I was shocked when I saw his name in ending credits!
From: monkeedoodle
I'm putting some pics up on my site this afternoon from the Burlington,IA show that was on Sunday, June 17th. We had front row, and then got front row standing by the stage. My pics aren't the best in the world, but some of em are pretty good.
www.geocities.com/monkee_doodle
There will be a link for new 2001 photos.
Thanks!
'Manda
From: Chris Coyle
Mark,
I have a question for you. This has bugged me since 1989,it concerns the version of Valeri (spelled this way) on Davy's "Incrediable" tape. That tape was recorded using many of the same backing musicians from the 86 tour. I swear, in my mind, I can hear Micky singing backing vocals on this version. Please let me out of this 12 year old headache..do you hear him too or am I just outta my head?
BTW, doesn't Davy just have the most awful looking tape/ cd covers?
Chris
From: Dan Lafferty
I was thinking the same thing about "I Wanna Be Free". I really dig the rock version.
From: Dan Lafferty
I know the differences are probably too subtle to make this very appropriate for this thread, but for what it's worth...I like the album version of "Pleasant Valley Sunday" more than the single version.
From: Dan Lafferty
That he does. As most people here will recall, in the Favorite Episodes tape, while he's introducing his episode and telling what it's about, he says something like, "I apply for a job....or, the Peter Tork character...there IS some difference there."
From: Dan Lafferty
Good calls, Chris. As a matter of fact, I HAVE made a disc of Nesmith songs and a separate disc of non-Mike songs. Except, I wasn't as strict as you suggest. I didn't limit either disc to songs that Mike himself or the others had written. That is...I included on the Mike disc great songs that he didn't write himself, but sang. And on my other disc, I included basically all my favorite Monkees songs that Mike didn't sing. I just couldn't make a disc of songs written by the other three. There simply aren't enough quality ones to warrant it.
From: Tyme
I don't think she meant that literally (please say you don't mean that literally). It seems to me that she just took the tele from teletubbies and stuck it in front of monkees. Not that she saw any similarities between the two.
From: suzannetigger
definately the pieces version of Goin Down is the better one. I too like Micky's lead vocals over Mikes on Girl I Knew Somewhere, but I prefer the slow version of I wanna be free.
From: Monkeedoodle
Hi everybody!! I just put up some concert pics from Burlington,IA Sunday June 17th. The concert was excellent!! (Even though it started 2 hours late because of the rain!!)
www.geocities.com/monkee_doodle
Peace!!
'Manda
From: Chris Coyle
Dan,
I've always wanted to make a CD of just Mike's stuff. I just havent got around to it yet. I did make a tape back in the 80's I remember enjoying.
I didnt think you could make a quality CD of just songs written by the other thre, not enough good material.
Chris
From: Rocker
It sounds to me like the alternate version of "The Girl I Knew Somewhere" has a cleaner sound than the version with Micky on lead vocals. I still prefer the Micky version. Mike wrote some great songs, and that was one of the best.
From: Rocker
Mike wrote some excellent tunes for the Monkees. My favorites: 1. The Girl I Knew Somewhere 2. Mary, Mary 3. Sweet Young Thing 4. Papa Gene's Blues 5. Listen to the Band
The only solo Nesmith song I have heard is "Sunset Sam", which I like a lot. Can anyone advise me on what CD's I should look for from Mike Nesmith? Thanks!
From: Beth
You can listen to most of Mike's songs on his official website store at videoranch.com. My favorites are Tropical Campfires and the three he did with the First National Band. :)
From: Beth
I'm 15 and have been a Monkees fan for about four years now. On Friday night 2 of my friends spent the night. My first attempt to turn them onto the Monkees failed when I showed the only video of the show I have and they said they would fall asleep because it was so boring and stupid so about half way through the second episode we turned it off. But then the next morning I turned on the Monkees Music Box while I was getting dressed and we ended up listening to cds 2,3, and part of 4. They were actually dancing around to the music and my friend Danielle really liked it. She said their show was stupid but their music was cool. That afternoon she actually kept saying "The Monkees are cool." I thought she was joking at first, but she wasn't. She's seen pics of Davy before but now she said that she probably would have been a big "groupie" of Davy because he was really cute. She even started reading the section on Davy in my Monkees book. I just thought that was funny. Anyway, bye.
From: Teresa in Texas
Preferences:
Circle Sky--the "live" version
Can You Dig It--Micky's version
I Wanna Be Free--the "fast" one
The Girl I Knew Somewhere--Micky's version
And a new one--"Do Not Ask for Love" written by my fave Michael Murphey. I LOVE Micky's version, but Peter's also offers something the other doesn't have. Both are great!
Also, "I Don't Think You Know Me"--we have 3 versions to choose from--Mike, Micky, Peter. I think Micky's wins hands down.
From: Teresa in Texas
Yeah, my daughter is 10 and we've been watching lots of Monkees videos this summer. We also watched the Beatles' movie Help. She has decided that "the Monkees were better looking than the Beatles," and her favorite Monkees are Mike and Davy. Welcome to the board, Beth. Post often!
From: Mark T.
Chris, when I began reading your question about Davy's solo version of "Valleri" on the INCREDIBLE album, I almost knew what you were going to ask!!!! Yes, I have always thought that Micky could be on the recording, but never had any proof of it! So yeah, I definitely agree in that it sounds like Micky.
And yes, Davy's solo stuff could not be packaged any worse that it is has been in the past. Talk about cheap production values.
From: Mark T.
To be completely honest, the TV show does nothing for me anymore, and I guess that is the reason I haven't watched it in 10 years or so. For me it's the music and concerts, not the TV show. I guess it's always been that way. I was never into the show, I just taped it so I could have them all in my collection! LOL.
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Good for you! I know it's sometimes hard to get friends to see the light when it comes to cool stuff. But as you found out, the music does the talkin'! Give 'em time, they'll love the show too eventually if they ever see more episodes. How can they not like it when it's so darn funny and innovative?
Thanks for the info on Mike Nesmith!
From: Mark T.
Dan, nope, you're not the only one. The album version of "PVS" is definitely superior to the single version. It's time for Rhino to wake up and realize this!
From: suzannetigger
I've been buying the shows off Ebay mostly for my 13 year old daughter who is a big fan I've watched the ones I've gotten with her and it brings back alot of memories. I was faithfully glued to the T.V. every week to watch the Monkees in the 60's. Of course we didn't have computers back then and the only way you got to see or hear anything about your favorite groups was T.V., Radio and Teen Mags, and then you only knew what they wanted you to know whether it was true or not. for instance Davy's marriage and first daughter was kept a secret for a long while. I remember one Teen magazine showing pics of Davy with his daughtet stating it was his god daughter!
From: suzannetigger
I just got the CD The hits Keep comin from Ebay and thought it was pretty nice. good blend of music, kinda easy listening mood music. My favorite Song of Mikes from his Monkee days is What Am I Doin Hanging Round?
From: suzannetigger
I also like the Live 67 version of Last Train to Clarcksville much better than the original release. Isn't that funny with the professionals playing the original version I thought the Monkees put alot more soul into it.
From: Chris Coyke
Now I can finally feel the ease of this burden I've been carrying since 1989 LOL!!
We have to solve this one! anyone else think that it's Micky singing?
Chris
From: Chris Coyle
Rocker,
The best place to start for solo Nez..
Magnetic South Loose Salute Nevada Fighter Infinite Rider
Try this web site for reviews.. http://www.geocities.com/markprindle/nesmith.htm
Chris
From: Stacey
When I first compared the two, I also enjoyed the fast version of I Wanna Be Free over the slow. But you know, I've come to know and love the slow version a bit better these days. And well, afer I saw the concert and Davy sang it, the slow version also hold sentimental value for me, so I guess I'm stuck on that one! lol!
(Hooray for Davy!)
From: Dan Lafferty
Very cool, Beth. It's satisfying to turn people on to something they think they won't like, especially music. Keep trying with the TV show. By a couple more episodes. There's a video out that has the episodes "One Man Shy" and "Monkees Marooned". I think that's a good "starter" tape to get people hooked.
Enjoy and keep spreading the word!
Dan
From: Dan Lafferty
Except that Mike didn't right "(What Am I Doing) Hangin' 'Round?", did he? I think he just sang it.
From: Dan Lafferty
Here's my picks:
1. Good Clean Fun 2. Nine Times Blue 3. St. Matthew 4. The Girl I Knew Somewhere 5. Listen To The Band
From: Dan Lafferty
Indeed. But, actually...the boxed set Listen to the Band, which Rhino put out, had the better version on it. I didn't buy Music Box. I take it that it has the single version?
From: Dan Lafferty
Oooh, Pete's version of "I Don't Think You Know Me" is by far my fave. The emotion with which he sings the line "I've known you a hundred times in memories I recall, but I don't think you know me at all" is beautiful.
From: Dan Lafferty
I just realized that "Tapioca Tundra" totally rips off the guitar riff from the Byrds' "I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better".
*sigh*
From: Dan Lafferty
I just realized that "Tapioca Tundra" totally rips off the guitar riff from the Byrds' "I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better".
*sigh*